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  1. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Haha turbos on MU are scarring experiences for anyone. Some people get addicted to being scarred though (perhaps out of self loathing, right Eido?) They're not representative of other games. 18 minute day phases and 6 minute night phases means you hardly get any time to read or actually play. If you want to actually try a different site for a game or two, hit me up. I think you'd like FFR (my homesite). I'm hosting a 12hr/12hr turbo right now, but I think the 48/24hr phase lengths we have...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 30, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I can understand where you're coming from, Fable. When I first started online Mafia, I based my plays on the more experienced players in my community. Several of them played rather emotionally, but one in particular took it far enough to be toxic. He made it a point to get in shitslinging fights every game, and constantly made ad hominem attacks about the players, their plays and strats, and their skill in general. I, being new, thought this was a norm and adopted some of it into my play....
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 30, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  3. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    You did good, Delphine. It's our fault for not opening our minds up to additional possibilities. You posted better than several towns. Not gonna say that not having internet didn't help a bit, but what you posted did most of the work. Good job, truly.
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 29, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  4. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Looking forward to a game with you, Newcomb. Proph and Eido each said good things.
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  5. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    ...Where is everyone? is there a hidden postgame chat I don't know about? It's okay, I think I'll just sleep forever. --- Post automerged --- hahaha @Vira I LOVED your flavor btw. Funny and well written. Thanks for the bonus scenes~ <3
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  6. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Don't you mean "don't let your dreams be memes, dude?" 'cause I feel like that's what happened.
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  7. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Nice job Delphine. You were so widely townread that even pushing you in later phases became impossible. I know someone will say that pushing a widely townread scum is always possible, but I was always on worse footing than her and she was only possibly scum with Rubicon, so I had hoped to lynch him first. That changed after Fable said he was never lynching outside of Miner. T-T Good job all.
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  8. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Called it T-T Just knew I could never push it. GGWP
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  9. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Wow, talk about "misreading people's posts". Completely twisting my words. How he got that from: Thoughts: I started to reverse my read on Rubi in reading the first part of this ISO. I thought that, perhaps, I only saw Rubi=Scum as a response to not working hard enough to make sense of other worlds and that tinfoiling too hard had led me to a wrong conclusion. This continued until I reached the phase after Fluff's lynch, when he began to push on GH. Since then, he gets progressively more...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  10. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    What? I don't think there's any option here tbh. I'm confident on Rubi, especially how he tried twisting the narrative of my case on him, but I don't think he can be lynched because you and Delphine are both against it. Less confident on you because I'm not 100% on Miner being town, but don't think I get you lynched either way. At this point I'm resigned to the Miner lynch and will quite honestly be glad for sleep if the game ends. Hope I die for the same reason (but will turn thread inside...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  11. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    oh rip. Go back to voting Rubicon? I mean, he concluded that the team was 100% Rubi/Fable. I was sort of absent 'cause of IRL shit for a good portion of this phase and was more focused on trying to figure out what the hell was going on when I came back. Didn't really think of who's votes were where right then.
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  12. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Odd considering that he didn't greet either me or GH at the start of this game. Odder still to see Miner actually wanting to get meta insight into a new player. "I always ask for links" directly clashes with his D1 this game. @Miner why weren't you interested in either me or GH, how we played, or links to our previous games? This looks exactly like a post he made this game, but I see in reading through that /10 looks to be something he just says. and Tie into #138 this game. Also puts...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Oh ok that makes more sense. I got annoyed when I saw it because my brain linked it with your "lockscum" comment from earlier and thought you were just sitting around throwing out comments on how "locked" Miner was without actually trying to figure it out. Mybad. --- Post automerged --- I don't think the earlier one is very important tbh. It read like a note rather than "trying to head off a Fluff CFD", and can see it coming from either alignment. He's said that the reason he was opposed...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I'm not content with anyone rn, but that's why I'm trying to figure it out. You being content enough in lylo to just make posts about how locked he is is just unnecessary fuel to my "Fable not Miner" world and is actually really annoying if you're town. --- Post automerged --- Wait, did you just mean to call out him not posting when you said "antispew"?
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Yes, with a vote on GH in between (1) and (2). The way I had it written is correct. The extra layer of actually trying to lynch Miner is exactly why I included #1139 and said "is preceded by", indicating that it came before #1169 and that he had seemed to actually want Miner lynched. Is this not apparent from my last post? --- Post automerged --- Oh, then you're actually wrong on this. He voted GH, then realized there was a CFD going and said "let's not do the CFD". --- Post automerged ---...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  16. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    What are you actually doing? Are you really so content with game that you can just sit back and make pointless remarks like "derp Miner lockwolf amirite or amirite" and "derp Miner totally antispew amirite amirite" ^not actually Fable's words, but close enough and god damn do I wish he was actually looking into it instead of just needling the point
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  17. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    DUDE
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    "X Preceded by Y" means "Y happened before X". Is that not the order that stuff happened in? #1139 wasn't included on its own because it didn't have a vote or a read. I included in the context of #1169 because it's relevant. #1139 asked people to switch votes (onto Miner), and therefore is relevant because it shows Rubi did seem to try to get people ON the Miner wagon before getting OFF it himself. #1169 would look a lot worse without #1139, so it wouldn't be fair to not include it.
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  19. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    GH explicitly said he was changing his approach to fit site meta. That looked off because I don't understand why town changes a successful meta just for the purpose of fitting in. It looked to be more likely that scum would want to fit in, and more likely to change their approach "to fit site meta". Miner just said he was trying something new. There's an inherent difference between that and deliberately trying to fit sitemeta, which I still don't quite understand the motivation behind....
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  20. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Fair. I hate the "if she is she deserves the win" thing, but I can't even blame you for it because I've thought the same thing myself at different points of game. I'm jealous of the luxury you have if you're town. For me, the PoE isn't as clear cut because there's nothing that prevents Rubi/Fable from being a world, so I keep getting scared and coming back to that every time the universality of a Miner lynch becomes clear. I just hope you're right.
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  21. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Explain. You could have literally quoted any post in this game and said exactly what you said and I wouldn't have been any better off in figuring you out. Why is that "really really scummy?" What? How did you get that? I even summarized my read at the bottom. Can you actually answer the questions there though (just CTRL+F "@Rubicon" in that post for questions. #806 and #1391 are most important) I wrote a bit about things that bother me most about you in the conclusion of that post. Here:
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  22. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Writing on tapatalk to not lose stuff from computer. Halfway done with Miner. Lot of differences, some striking similarities. It's 7am and I'm way too tired and don't want to rush anything because that always turns out badly Gonna go sleep and finish tomorrow So much to check so little time why do humans need sleep Aorn probably still lynching Rubi. We need to be unified on the lynch though because with these rules wolves win if we don't hit softlynch so that gives them more room to...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  23. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Been swamped the last couple of days, but I'm free tonight and tomorrow so I'll be here til I'm happy with my reads. Rubicon Read Progression: #21: Votes Asmodeus in RVS #78: "Slight townread" on GH. Curious about Jan's spewclear. =Slight TR GH #104: "Mild feelings of distrust and unease" towards Miner, but notes he did like Miner's "beruru vote, because I feel like beruru's opening post is scum beruru". Also votes Beru. Says "Jan is Null", Asmo/Delphine unaligned (not w/w) for catpics....
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 28, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  24. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    ^this is to Rubi I really wish I had access to a computer rn
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  25. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Pushing you + miner most strongly, actually. Read my posts if you claim to have a scumread on me. I've had more townreads than scumreads all game. This is lylo though, lil bit different. Also must've been easy for you to figure out who you wanted to scumread after you saw my post. Pretty drastic change there from your hard townread at the end of last phase. What caused the change? Answer specifically, please.
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  26. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I hate these soft/hard lynch requirements. It makes EoD so much harder to read and gives everyone the automatic excuse "I just wanted to be sure to get a lynch" Like, GH wagon EoD seems to be filled with doubt, but nobody moves because moving means we might give up a lynch/need to see GH flip. Fable takes this furthest, saying he'd be willing to die (get CFDd) for GH, but doesn't move because ? Agually @Fable can you talk about that post? Why suggest you'd be ok with a CFD on you for someone...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  27. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    You need one mislynch to win. One. It's not exactly locking yourself into limited worlds if you have two options to choose from and need one kill. Also really interesting how you wrote that bit about locking yourself into limited worlds in the same post as your reads. How much did the idea of "town locks itself in" affect the reads you wrote? And how do you consolidate that with me "locking myself into" the "limited world" of you/Fable in my first post this phase? Does that automatically...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  28. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    In f5 lylo, 2 wolves in a game almost always want a villager if possible. Yeah it might look weird if he cleared you off the bat, but the sort of soft defense he used for a lack of "not getting what he's doing to help his team" struck me as exactly what a wolf might say of his partner. Why do you insist on misrepresenting me? I said Miner was more likely than you, and that would require a bit of bussing. Now, after miner's vote, it would require even more bussing but the point stands....
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  29. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Ah yeah fair point
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  30. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Try what?
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  31. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Oh yeah weird lynch rules Ok thats fine then
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  32. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Wait what? I get that you're talking about Delphine but tell me again when Rubicon saw it??
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  33. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Technically speaking if everyone was here and everyone saw that, you'd have to lock it between Rubi/Miner (incidentally, I'm fine with that), but so far it's only me and Fable so please unvote if you're town @Miner
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  34. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Dude unvote wtf
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  35. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    "just 'cause* you" Is how that should read. As in, you put in a solid amount of work last phase despite working offline, so don't get negligent this phase just cause you're townread. As for Fable, I've looked into his meta as far as asking players (in this game) who have alot of experience with him about him. Haven't asked him to provide games, I don't think. He's kind of been one of my biggest question marks all game, which is why I keep trying to resolve him. Didn't help that he took off...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  36. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Can you talk about your read on Delphine again and why she's such a strong town for you?
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Wait how are you going to start over if you're not going to reread? Dude, rereading posts that you read wrong in the first place is exactly what will "work out", given the context of all flips so far. Even SoD1 is interesting to read the order people come in and how they interact after knowing that more than half the names are conf!town. Trying to figure out mindsets given that info makes it easier, even if you got it wrong the first time.
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    But ok tired gonna sleep. Delphine please dont be negligent of thread just you won't be lynched today G'night
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  39. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Rubi voteswitch and soft defense make Miner likelier
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  40. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Probably Miner more than Fable, actually
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  41. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Yesterday and today (Tuesday, it's 3:12 atm) are really busy for me, but I should be a lot freer from 9 or 10pm tonight. I hate hate hate being left alive to lylo, but I'll do my best to hold myself to the standard I told Beru I'd hold her to. Oh , and this is probably obvious and hopefully doesn't need to be said, but this is lylo and there can't be a single stray vote before EoD. Despite that, though, declaring intent works just as well as a vote would for any purpose necessary, so use...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  42. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Gonna say this outright: most likely lynching Rubi this phase. Partner likely Fable, might be Miner @Rubicon why insist that GH push you first when he thought you were potentially Miner's partner? Why is that the "townier thing to do?" @Miner last phase you said you couldn't be partnered with anyone except maybe Fluff or Fonti. Can you explain your thoughts on why Fluff and Fonti specifically, and why it isn't possible for you to be partnered with Rubi? @Fable I get that you said you're...
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 26, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  43. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Lol wtf Beru I didn't mean in game I meant I'll hold YOU to it and will be disappointed in you if you don't deliver
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  44. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    I'll hold you to this if GH town and I die Don't disappoint
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  45. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Lol idk about Fonti, but Jan (in thread, at least) was under 0 pressure because of spewclear. If you kept him in your thread PoE you would've been one of few that did so.
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  46. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    No. There's plenty of instances where people defend people in this game where that isn't the case, and I dont appreciate you trying to spin it otherwise. It's HOW you and GH interacted that caught my attention, and I've outlined that today (have you read posts this phase?) Even still, in my legacy post I asked that if GH flips scum to NOT automatically assume you're the wolf because of my read on you. I don't think I've ever said HAS TO anything in maf btw, I'm always reconsidering ad infinitum
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  47. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Appealing for time to make a legacy post doesn't feel like caught wolf unless he thinks he can flip it on someone else or is confident in misdirection Caught wolves typically shut up so that there's less to find their partners by I wanted to see how he responded to being under lynchpressure as wolf and if he ever asked for more time to drop a legacy but that game was too different to confirm anything
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Also not looking like I'll able to get access to computer in time Should be ok for the most psrt without it
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  49. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Looked through this couldnt find what I was looking but pressure was different.. Shit I'd ask for others but not enough time
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
  50. Asmodeus
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    Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

    Whats your point? I do think wolves in 2 person team will inherently not want to lose each other unless necessary, yes. You talked to GH just twice all D0, and once wasn't even to him it was ABOUT him (or this was his ISO on you not 100% sure off memory atm), so what does not talking to your partner have to do with it?
    Post by: Asmodeus, Sep 22, 2017 in forum: Little Italy
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