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  1. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Eh, could be a bunch of things re: the shot, like fonti also strongly pushed w/w with poof and would have pushed him today. I don't want nk analysis to be what I'm using as huge thing here too. Anyway got to go, will try and check before deadline but hope I've aired enough of my concerns with eido being scum here
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 24, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  2. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    I read it, think it genuinely could be a slip. Also think it could be tired and looking at player list and seeing 3 dead PRs and not thinking much more about it before posting.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 24, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
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    The 100 Mafia

    Shooting me there sort of ruins their plan of pushing to save Poof, like I die there you're dunking the Poof slot almost every time, no? Puts DLGN in a weird spot with his read on me too.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 24, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  4. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    You've put all my thoughts down very nicely in just this paragraph imo. It's very much a, if Eidos scum all of their play makes sense at EOD2, they push w/v wagon thing to give Poof room, they're able to push on and focus on the Poof voters, they've got MLs in NH/Kai/etc and have a very good chance of winning.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 24, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  5. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Just a bunch of things where I'd look and think the game makes sense with him as scum, but I also don't want to be the person to shove there since I'm not in a 100% focused headspace, I don't feel like I've done enough or had enough time to be the one making that call and because I'd feel horrible if he's town doing it.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 24, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  6. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Ugh, yeah, see I'm in a spot where I think objectively there's a lot lot that makes sense with eido being scum here, moreso than M7 for sure. But I know he's got stuff going on and would feel horrendous if I msktnched him, put the longer he's sort of put aside if he's scum the higher chance he's got of winning this here. Like, this is slightly tin foil but I've read the EOD2 a few times and I kind of feel both Poof and Bears were playing to try and have Bears be the lynch as well, and find...
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 24, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
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    The 100 Mafia

    I have about 10 minutes. @Newcomb are you around --- Post automerged --- If you are please talk to me about Eido. --- Post automerged --- Really hard to shake the feeling that the way he went about the Jan & Tsaiah reads makes sense with a scum agenda.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 24, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  8. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    I really think M7 is just town here? And agree with Stanari that Bootys just lolcatting with words, sadly don't think it means the slots /always/ scum, but there's enough ;things; that make me think or at least hopeful that a lynch there might end the game and think that's where we should go today.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 24, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  9. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    DLGN spew only really just makes Jarizok look a bit better, and that's it really. Need to go through Bears spew and see if I still think Nego/Bears are anti-aligned, because if I don't then it's probably just as easy as it being that slot? --- Post automerged --- Part of me is screaming "DLGNs EOD2 play was part of an actual scum plan to lynch through Bears, set up W/V angles and try and run through the game with DLGN/Empoof+1 and win it like that" and the most troubling thing is the person...
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 23, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
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    The 100 Mafia

    Kind of think Jan might have spewed M7 town, wouldn't mind someone reading Jans ISO from his Fenwicked vote onward and telling me what they think. --- Post automerged --- Eh, outside of that I see a bit that points to Vaimes!Town from Jans ISO and that's it?
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 23, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  11. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Hi! Talk to me about Eidos most recent posts, and talk to me about the Negoslot!
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 23, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  12. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    I'll be here reading & catching up in a few hours. --- Post automerged --- I need to do some deep rereading on this game. But yeah, I'll dump thoughts beforehand I guess since lolmessythoughts is the trend of this thread now. I feel like I've got both a clearish vision of the game state and a path to victory and a super cloudy one at the same time and I'm not entirely sure how that even makes sense. But I'm in a "If we lynch M7 today and he flips town, would I be shocked? NOPE, think his...
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 23, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  13. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Struggling to find /any/ spare time at the moment with a few things popping up, should be able to spend some time catching up tonight or at latest I have tomorrow off work so then.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 23, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  14. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    I didn't try and interact or discuss those reads with you in the same manner I did Eido, I'd sort of, directed him to specific things/games as to why I disagreed with his reasoning or thought the slots needed more attention. I can easily see and think the most likely thing is "Town!Eido was stubbornly sticking to those reads even in the face of evidence against them wanting to be right / not having enough time to reassess them properly" but there's also the other trouble of "Scum!Eido...
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 21, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
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    The 100 Mafia

    Have both as anti-aligned with the flipped slots, have both as town reads. Don't think it ever gets to one v the other. But the difference is more a case of "I think Eido is a better scum player / more likely to trick me than Jarizok" + a little of "I'm a little worried re; how hard it was to get Eido to reassess on Tsaiah/Jan given both slots flipped wolf".
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 21, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  16. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Absolutely swamped today, ideally get to this tomorrow. Would like to take this day phase slowly, is probably as easy as put Stanari/Newcomb/Jarizok/NH to the side and lynch everyone else and take win but I'd rather end it this day phase if possible.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 21, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
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    The 100 Mafia

    @KaiDASH - You can hammer now, coming back to check this in a few hours when I get home to seeing a flip would be nice.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 20, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  18. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

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    Post by: Regfan, Jul 20, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  19. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Think everyone is on the same page re; DLGN's flip telling us NH's alignment and we either just kill him and win, or we kill Kai and win. And if it's not over by then start looking at M7 probably but I kind of can't see it /ever/ getting to that? Everyone else is just clearly town here either by play or spew.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 20, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
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    The 100 Mafia

    Would be cautious town reading Kais reaction towards the guilty and lynch me and kill these slots type comments since in the world we're in, the partner likely submitted the kill and thus Scum! Kai would know its fake. I'm p good to hard lynch DLGN, see his flip (re:NH) and go from there.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 20, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  21. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Lolme indeed. Amusingly, I had the game down to 1 of [Jan/Vaimes] & 1 of [NH/Kai] with the outside exception of it being a NH/Kai world and I was going to go Vamies>Jan and NH>Kai. So lolworldbuildinggotmeclose but couldn't pick right.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  22. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Need to learn when in situations where I town read Jan and scum read his predecessor, just lynch his predecessor.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  23. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Is okay Newcomb, games over DLGN -> Kai. And if it's somehow not over NH, but it'll be over by then.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  24. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Kind of really think DLGN shot Fonti and was planning on hard pushing me here today as scum to try and mslynch me in a "well fuck it, I've got him looking bad with the Bears flip over Empoof and I've got Newcomb/Eido calling Empoof town as the wagons w/v from it so maybe I can get them to help" in which case loldlgn.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  25. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Sameies. Think DLGN!Scum means Vaimes is town, also think it spew clears M7 meaning DLGN/NH or DLGN/Kai are the sort of teams I'm seeing and I feel like DLGN/NH play D1 differently here since I think Jan probably involves him more and it feels less like he's lost/disconnected. DLGN/Kai makes lots of sense though.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  26. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Unvote, Vote: DLGN --- Post automerged --- Can very much believe that, his EOD2 play is something I should have nuked him for straight away today instead of trying to solve Vaimes. --- Post automerged --- DLGN (Jan) scum really makes me think the last is just Kai and Jan was cheeky and did post the whole team. DLGN-Kai?
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  27. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    You're muddlying up this coversation. I'm not trying to convince you that you're scum here because lolpointless, I'm not even very confident that's the case. And I most certainly don't think getting into a "nah uh, you would make that kill" type thing is helpful. You're pushing a Fonti!Kill means A, I'm putting forward B/C/D about why some scum teams may have made that kill and why I think reading super into the kill isn't a great idea since it can just be like, PR read, can be her having...
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  28. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Uhhh, they probably think they can push me based on the "He was pushing the Cw to scum"? Duh?
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  29. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Have already talked about this earlier and zero people commented on it. Empoof hadn't flipped and mafia wouldn't have foreseen a vig shot happening on him there. Eido/Newcomb were talking about/suggesting it being W/V at EOD, mafia keeping them alive hoping that they push Town!Empoof worlds and hunt on the Empoof wagon is something that makes a lot of sense. It also fits as a 'lets make people paranoid' type kill and a bunch of other things.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  30. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Also you're missing Kai from my PoE, the post you're referring to is a "Kai, if you're town here, here's the rest of my PoE, work with it from there".
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  31. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    @Vaimes - I think your meta and scum play has evolved and improved a fair bit over the last few months (Sure you had a bad game last game but I don't think that negates some of the changes you've made), I think you're able to be more active and hit more tonal notes that you haven't been able to hit before as scum. That said I didn't or haven't really seen much of an improvement in your scum game re; interactions with partners (I had Jan/You as a very likely team while I was alive in Disney...
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  32. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    He effectively town read Tsaiah for ~things~ and never commented on Empoof much/if at all when that slot was gathering huge amounts of attention at EOD yesterday. His read on Beruru moved around from weak town/weak scum/PoE scum etc but never really had any sort of depth behind it.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  33. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Vaimes/Kai? Vaimes/NH? The latter feels more likely I think but neither impossible? --- Post automerged --- The read progression on Tsaiah / Beruru throughout the game is incredbily scummy, particularly the way he handled both getting wagoned D1, and both getting wagoned D2. His posts about the wagons and peoples stagnant votes yesterday and trying to use that to direct people to Nego who's almost certainly town here sets off alarm bells. The actual interactions with both slots also very...
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  34. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Have skimmed Vaimes ISO in little spare time I have. Vote: Vaimes Happy with this for now. Lots and lots and lots of concerns with his play this game. Kind of think Jan/Vaimes never a world here for a lot of reasons, including Vaimes interaction/commentary with Jan inside the early game and a lot of the Jan goes about commenting about his read on Vaimes with Vaimes's response to them.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  35. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Going to have very limited time for this for ~12ish hours until I'm home and likely drunkposting :/ --- Post automerged --- Lot of things pointing towards there being minimum 1 (Probably just 1?) in NH/Kai though and I'd nuke NH before Kai I think.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 19, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  36. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    I'm fairly confident both are town here. If you're town, try and play with me here for a second; Say the mod comes in and confirms all of Newcomb/Stanari/Jarizok/Eido/Nego/Citrus as town and told you that both remaining scum are therefore in DLGN/NH/M7/Vaimes, what's the order you lynch them and why? What teams inside there do you think are likely/unlikely? --- Post automerged --- I think I've got M7/Vaimes as pretty unaligned; interaction between the two of them, the way M7 stated his...
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  37. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Reminder to trek/look at Vaimes's reads progression on the Tsaiah(Empoof)/Bears slots.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  38. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    --- Post automerged --- Am doing that first thing when I get home, his EOD unvote and movement towards Kai looks p bad.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  39. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    I'm also squinty eyes with his treatment of Eido/myself this game lately.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  40. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    @Newcomb, talk to me about Vaimes when you finish catching up. Am a little concerned with his posting/play yesterday, particularly around EOD, am in a position of "If I was wrong on a town read earlier, this one looks possible". --- Post automerged --- I kind of remember Fonti making a Scum!Von post, not sure entirely how serious it was but the Fonti kill kind of fits what I think Von would do there? (My issue with his EOD play is he was trying to push the game towards Nego when the wagons...
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  41. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Kai/Smiles/Jan/Vaimes don't look great coming out of Bears ISO. Willing to lock Nego/Jari/Eido/Stanari/Citrus as town from it due to anti-alignments.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  42. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Yeah, just read about a dozen posts and I'm pretty good to lock in Nego as town via unaligned with Bears here.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  43. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    The whole conversation about M7's meta and Nego trusting Bears read on M7 and Bears telling him not to etc and the way it happened kind of rules out a Nego/M7 world from ever happening here? I mean I think Nego/Bears alone isn't a thing but yeah, this is def a world I can rule out. --- Post automerged --- Hum. Would like others to chime in on this and what they're making of it.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  44. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    TOWN: Citrus/Eido/Jarizok/Newcomb/Stanari Need to look at / sort inside of: DLGN/Kai/Nego/NH/M7/Vaimes
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  45. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Don't know if I've ever disagreed with your posts as much as I do your most recent 2-3 ones @Newcomb
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  46. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Shrug. We can talk tomorrow after we've both done the spew/interaction reading then I guess, anything else will just be irritable.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  47. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Yeah but uhhh, you also said the same thing re; your Tsaiah reasoning/strength of the read earlier when I tried to direct you to something where I thought you were making the same mistake I had with her before. I think DLGNs attitude around EOD yesterday was one where he didn't particularly even try to assess either of the two players from a town perspective. I can see that making sense with W/W wagons here, like a lot. I did think Jan was town, I've been wrong on a strong town read on Jan...
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  48. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Like the Fonti shot makes plenty of sense with that.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  49. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Scum also uhhh, wouldn't have seen the Empoof vig shot coming? And you/Newcomb were pushing 'this doesn't feel like w/w' so maybe they thought you'd defend Empoof and thought that'd mean you guys having Town!Empoof and looking at me pushing the counter-wagon to Scum!Beruru and focus on me?
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
  50. Regfan
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    The 100 Mafia

    Shrug? I'd hard cleared Fonti overnight, had Fonti/Bears as unaligned here, don't think scum thought they could get her lynched at all and think that's a shot that also drums up "paranoia" re; the shot rather than say a typical shot towards one of us three, and I think scum need that at this point.
    Post by: Regfan, Jul 18, 2018 in forum: Little Italy
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