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A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin [Spoilers]

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by Philly Homer, May 3, 2009.

  1. ScottPress

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    I'm totally stealing this joke from reddit, full disclosure.

    GoT has shown us plenty of nudity, but never before have we seen a Dickon fire.
     
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    [​IMG]

    I tried but Reddit bot told me I had to format the post and that's too much work for me so feel free to use it.
     
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    Conclusions from this episode:

    Holy fucking shit Gendry is a badass.

    Relevantly, holy fucking shit I had no idea Arya was still such a brat whenever she's not busy killing people. This episode more than anything actually made me realize how fucked up she's become.

    Samwell Fucking Tarly. Remember that name.

    Edit: I Hated Danny before it was cool.
     
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    Littlefinger is going to get his own within the next two episodes, with the sixth having a lot of action which means that his fall would be sudden; getting his throat slit by Arya would be quite straight forwards (Bran gives the dagger to Arya - as simple a Chekov's gun as you could expect). Not a very satisfying end; he has been wasted as a character since the writers ran out of GRRM's writing.
     
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    Actually I'd say it's likely to be more of a book thing, and that's why it's handled in such a offhand way in the show. The annulment is much more significant thing if there's Aegon around claiming to be the rightful heir (which he wouldn't be if Rheagar's marriage was annulled), but in the show there isn't.

    In the show it doesn't really matter if Rhaegar and Lyanna were married or not, as Jon is fine with letting Dany have the throne. But in the books Dany might want to use Jon's stronger claim (via a political marriage) to get advantage over Aegon - and in exchange Jon gets Dany's help at the wall. Especially as Aegon apparently wants to marry Dany to strengthen his claim, which likely isn't something Dany would want; Dany doesn't want to share power with anyone, and Jon would be more likely to let Dany have what she wants than Aegon.

    Right now the idea that Dany _needs_ Jon's help for anything (in the show) is a bit far fetched, as Dany is obviously perfectly capable of forcing the lords to kneel by herself.
     
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    So what does "repudiation" mean? Lol, I haven't laughed that hard since forever. Man, maybe the most significant reveal of the season and it's Gilly making it so nobody fucking cares!

    Now that I think about it, wasn't this scene in the show preview and it sets the whole "has Jon the better claim" debate? If this is the only time the annulation is mentionned, that's trolling the fandom to the highest level (no comparison with the rowing joke).

    Also, am I the only one to notice the irony that Sam is basically saying "we're counting steps and shit while our very chance at winning this war is sitting in the "? Not that the repudiation alone would win the war, but when the latest plan is to get people to fight with Jon and you hear in the same episode that Jon is not fit to be King indanorth and Dany is not fit to be queen cause she has no ties to the land, it takes another sense.

    I mean, it's not like they're trying to be subtle about shipping them, they probably couldn't be more obvious if they were actually going at it. Jon even has the children's approval. That wink was a "go for it, cuz" if I've ever seen one.

    What do you think would correspond to Jorah the best: dying to save the life of the latest guy Dany fancies, or living to be friendzoned once again? Hum, dilemnas...
     
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    God I hope not. It's such a stupid idea when you look away from the "they threw us a bone on R+L" factor. It's idiotic this is the way they're explaining the Kingsguard in the ToJ. There's no reason why Rhaegar would want to disinherit Aegon & Rhaenys. Aegon in Rhaegar's mind was the Prince who was Promised, not Lyanna's child. Rhaegar wanted to recreate Aegon I's trio and he was expecting Jon to be the Visenya to complete the trio. He had no idea Jon would be a boy and its therefore idiotic because he should know that the IT would never pass to the girl over a boy from the Dance.

    Not to mention that the same effect of legitimizing Jon could have come w/o disinheriting Egg&Rhaenys by taking Lyanna as a second wife per Targaryen tradition.
     
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    You know, all this talk about the Prince who was promised and Rhaegar's visions... Anyone think the dude might have just been following his dick?
     
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    Few more point about the episode.

    That outraged Dany's face after Jon said he would call her dragons beautiful is probably the most facial work we got from Emilia in years. Then she topped that with her worried face after he announced he will be going beyond the Wall.

    Compare it to her a lot less worried face when Jorah said the same. I suppose he missed his chance.

    Finally Peter Dinklage had a least few short scenes to work with. Especially his meeting with Jaime though it could be a little longer.

    My general complain of this season is that there is a lot wasted opportunities for some good character interactions. Tyrion and Ellaria, Tyrion and Davos shouldn't end in just two sentences. Stark siblings should at least mentioning Rickon. Jorah and Sam could use another scene. How about mentioning Aemon to Dany?
     
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    That and his own visions making a dangerous combination.
    He would have had better options than a 15 year old girl had he been simply been following his dick.
     
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    If there is one things suggesting there is more to Rhaegar and Lyanna's relationship than just love or lust, it's that he managed to convince three knights of the Kingsguard to keep her and the child safe. Either they believed his words about the prophecy, less likely option, or the child was somehow legitimate heir to the throne. Even then leaving all three was a little excessive. Maybe the books will present a good reason for that decision.
     
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    Best reply I've seen to this opinion online.

    http://ariannenymerosmartell.tumblr.com/post/164194495239/maidenoftheforestlight-kateofthecanals

    It's crazy how much some people have a disconnect with Arya and her actions considering her past and history even more so with Sansa. Loyalty and the staunchest of it is what Sansa has to show to even begin to heal her wounds with her sister.
     
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    This made me unreasonably happy.
     
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    That tumblr post defending Arya is ridiculous. She 'understands' politics when she thinks that your response to reasonable criticism from the men serving you - men who are the heads of extremely important houses - should be to execute them when you're already in an extremely tenuous position and need to keep the peace as much as possible. And that doing this would somehow in no way compromise your position, and wouldn't upset the hundreds of thousands of men serving those houses. Literally all they said was that Jon shouldn't have gone to meet Dany, which is totally sensible because we've seen her execute anyone who doesn't bend the knee, Jon's only exempt because plotarmour.

    And that isn't how Ned got killed at all, he wasn't executed because people decided he was a traitor, he was outright murdered to cover up the incest.

    The whole conflict - if it isn't just a fake-out where Arya knows that Littlefinger is fucking with them - relies on Arya being incredibly stupid. Maybe that's consistent characterization for her but it's still completely unreasonable.

    Edit: That said, it is frustrating how fickle the Northern lords are. They seem to be pretty similar to the people in Kings Landing, just blithely switching who they love and hate whenever the wind changes.
     
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    I'm not even a huge GoT fan, but this made me laugh. Spoilers?
     
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    "MisterValyrianStealYoGurl."

    I'm dying.
     
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    "It's subtle."
    "Soooo subtle."

    "It's not subtle." x 3
     
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    At this point I'm starting to think we need a Game of Thrones meme thread.
    Well-D.jpg
     
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