Hey, sorry for ducking out of thread yesterday without voting. Real life took a sudden nose dive and I couldn't stick around. I wouldn't have voted owner anyway just due to really not seeing that slot as scum from the early play, so I'm glad that CFD took place.
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I didn't get any messages from Cuth last night.

 

Vaimes' first readwall is terrible.

More interesting though, is that Miner attacked him for it. Does Miner ever go in for shade on Town!Vaimes? Hell no, that's not a lynch they'll ever get. Early shade to look good in case notoriously bad wolf Vaimes flips red though? Yes please.

 

...Interesting.

Have you looked at Dya's case on that slot? What were your thoughts?

 

I'll take a look at Vaimes sometime before tomorrow night. I typically depend on other people to read him anyway though
(And my only experience with him as scum was my very first town game).
@Vaimes: I did poke at you early in the day yesterday, did you miss it?
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I did early on, but scott does not look like wolf, plain and simple.

 

Also, look how the Vaimes consensus town came to be.

Town!Jan was the one to state it first. Fonti was there in about 12 milliseconds to go, "Yeah obviously 100% totally!", but she'd been withholding that read before.

Newcomb was actually struggling with getting to town!Vaimes early.

 

I have an extremely hard time believing anyone can make these posts to an about-to-flip scumbuddy.

 

This one time I was playing a game with spank on mu and she did exactly that. All of her wolfbros were in her null pile. With no villagers. We got the first and had reasons to suspect the 2nd, but got the third actually based on the fact the other two were scum. So it does happen.
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I'm sorry that everyone thinks new players think about all machinations when they play but they just don't.

Jari, how are you still reading Wei?

 

Hahaha that's actually hilarious. But still, seems like something that should be very rare.

 

Why? Both of those posts could very well be genuine even if they're partners?

Hell, I'd say it's /more/ likely for Vaimes to be genuinely sorry about lynching his scummate.

Town!Vaimes just says "Should have been townier bud".

 

It definitely should be. But I would not base a read on just that, you know?

 

I like Shadow/Wei and have seen approximately zero that makes me think scum there.

 

That's why I'm asking, Jari.

I still think owner is scum. I've been told over and over how towny vaimes is. I'd rather lynch owner because a red flip there helps people with my alignment. But I'm planning on rereading fonti at some point this day phase

 

Are these not the kind of posts you make in, like, scumchat? Like, it just feels like openly wolfing.

Do you rate the odds of Fonti/Cuth/Owner very high?

 

But I'm already town on you. I'd much rather lynch the slots I'm convinced of their alignments of (Fonti & Cuth), and keep considering that last slot.

It could be Owner. It could also be Vaimes. More time for Owner to do things wouldn't be bad anyway. It's not like she'll endgame as scum, we have a mislynch to spare.

 

I’m just gonna ignore Jarizok’s scumread on me tbh. I don’t think he’s ever actually townread me when we’re both town in the however many games we’ve been in together. Three? Four?

 

That first quote is fine itt as either alignment?

And yeah, that second quote would probably have been better in witch chat, but then again you and Fonti both went TWTBAW on it so /shrug.

Is it just me who finds it completely out of place for Fonti to restate the Vaimes 99.99% townread there btw?

Like, that was the established thread consensus ages ago. She may have felt it necessary precisely because Vaimes ended the day so scummie and Fonti knew it /wasn't/ TWTBAW?

 

I... strongly disagree? I don't think I think Vaimes is a wolf or wolfy, but... I have an extremely hard time seeing how you have an extremely hard time believing anyone can make those psots to an about-to-flip scumbuddy?

 

Lies. Also classic discredit.

 

Literally prove me wrong?

I cannot recall a single game.
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Also is it really discrediting if you’re just straight up wrong?

If not then uh. Yeah, discredit.

 

I sent a message to yeti, rip.