Ok, how is fonti's snark different as town than as scum?

I don't think pointing out that your reads are badly motivated is good reasoning at all? I am pretty sure fonti would absolutely do that as mafia, and would probably expect to get points for being the one to point it out. Or just not care if she got points or about your read on her.

 

As scum my memory of it is being...ugh okay I want to say "both less prevalent and more prevalent" and I think what I mean is "blunter, but less frequent". Like she's preoccupied with being scum and it makes it harder to execute on the snark well, which leads to it being both less subtle and less common.

I guess I can take your word for the reads thing, but like

I really don't see why she wouldn't just say nothing and let me flail around uselessly (unless the scumteam is her + two people I don't know well, in which case hrm)

 

Um, I went back over it and you were scumreading her at that point, not townreading her?

Question mark?
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Oh nevermind I missed you dropping your scumread.

 

dC's read on me is pretty weaksauce.

True or false: figuring out setup and role concerns is more important for a new scum to this setup than it is fir a new town? That's a serious question, it's been so long since I first played this setup that I've probably lost perspective.

 

(That would generally be something I would expect you to think about as town, yes.)
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I've actually been enjoying it way more than I thought I would. I haven't really felt like it's important except as far as like, not accidentally spewing myself as X which I've kind of only started being properly aware of this dayphase I think. But I'm awful at mechanics as well so I kind of just haven't been thinking about it and am hoping that everyone else knows what they're doing and gets it right and I don't screw something up royally.

 

Yeah, see that's how I thought town would approach it and Asmo is very noticeably not doing that. Like, I don't get why he would be stressing out over roles as town.

 

I think need to figure out mechanics as scum is really dependent on who your buddies are.

As town, kinda game dependent. Like, I've been what gemma just said for a bit. Just trying not to fuck up and counting on people to explain in thread.
It's how Newcomb got me in that one witchhunt. he had the clearest explanation for what was going on and I ran with it.

 

I wanna say false because scum can still actually play the game without understanding how the role stuff works and need only a minimal understanding to avoid horrible blowouts (mostly stuff to stop the Priest breaking the game), but for town if you fuck it up it can literally just mean town dies to soup and avoiding that is a lot harder than it looks.

(This might be biased by my views on anticlaim though >_>)

Also yeah I know the read is weak. I said as much when I initially stated it :V

Like, I'm going into that place where I'm probably doing toneread + post hoc but I'm kinda too low energy right now to break out of it :/

 

Relatedly, I think dC might be experiencing a kind of tmi, where he tries to understand other players, and the extra bit of knowledge of them being town allows him to get them much better than he could without that knowledge. His reads on Von and me both kind of feel like that.
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But, why? As town, you can avoid that potential blowup by just not outing your role. You can't control other players. Asmo is implying that he's reading into posts for role stuff as well as alignment things and trying to differentiate them, presumably so he doesn't accidentally point out a role thing to mafia. But, I don't get why it's stressful when really he just needs to depend on other town not being dumb. Meanwhile, reading into roles is how mafia win this setup after the shadow check.
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Yo, can someone with a computer do a full eod2 post count, please?

 

Bolded is an odd thing to assume, but whatever.

I said as much earlier, but I solve by looking at each post and trying to determine the mindset of the person who made it. Every role changes that a bit, which is why I mentioned it being drastically different reading this than mountainous. Either way, tomorrow should be more fun 'cause I should be fully caught up and know I'll be under pressure, which is another motivation to perform. In the meantime, relax on my slot and be a bit more openminded, cause hopefully the super sweet reads I'll have baked up will actually let you read me properly.

Plus, not having to juggle everything in my life tonight should allow me to focus a bit. Leggoo

 

Yeah, but the roles behind posts don't actually change the mindset much. Town is trying to find scum. Scum is trying to live and find out town roles as a secondary thing. It's really not that different.

Spoiler

 

Haha awwhh Charles <3

I'm surprised you haven't posted the evil-looking one yet

 

I mean you'd think it would be that easy, but it never seems to turn out that way. Apart from anything else you should probably TRY and control other players rather than just shrug and say "we'll lose to village idiots".

Like, again, this was my philosophy in the two "dead to soup" games and I keep thinking I should have been paying more attention to what the rest of town was doing rolewise so I could steer them away from the catastrophes that ensued.

As for the TMI thing, I literally just said I'm probably doing toneread + post hoc. What that actually means is I go "player X is probably town b/c tone" and then instead of reading them to find their alignment I read them to justify my toneread. In practice this reads pretty much exactly like actual TMI because I'm not significantly doubting the toneread when I probably should be.

I mean I could just throw my hands up and say I have no reads if that would make you feel better? It's probably about as accurate given my propensity to assume everyone is acting in good faith (this isn't mafia-specific, but it is a problem in mafia games >_>)

 

Are we at soft?

 

yo what is the current VC? Can someone check and put shadow at soft in case D2 ends in 30 minutes thanks.

 

Vote: Shadow

Just in case. Someone said it was impossible to hit a hard Maj so timing on this shouldn't matter.

 

Looks like no votes since gemma's last votal.

shadow (5) ~ Newcomb, tom, Cobalt, Vaimes, dC
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shadow (6) ~ Newcomb, tom, Cobalt, Vaimes, dC, asmo

 

Vote: Shadowlancer

 

shadow (5) ~ Newcomb, tom, Cobalt, Vaimes, dC

Saturday at 7:06

So yeah should be a half hour left.
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Ugh post saver

shadow (7) ~ Newcomb, tom, Cobalt, Vaimes, dC, asmo, waco

 

Maybe you should try this type of S.P.E.W?