Where? I don't remember there was anything like it.

 

Regardless, this has already been discussed earlier in the thread, though our intrepid google-linked poster has missed that.

Interesting to note, though, that DLP is one of the first links when searching for tWMF related topics.

 

Taborlin the Great also allegedly had a copper sword to go along with a candle (Amyr?) and his cloak of no particular color (Fae-made?). So saying that copper probably has some significance here isn't a long shot.

 

Something has been bothering me, sense my first and second read, having noticed it both times but unable to see if it is just significant or just Pat playing tricks...

When Kvothe is playing corners with Wil, Sim and Manet in the Eolin(sp? agh missed the "a"! thanks silverlasso), Kvothe fumbles a few hands because he has something on his mind (can't remember what excatly, not important though) Manet scolds him by saying something along the lines of... "'Here's a warm up for admissions, if you have three spades in your hand' he holds up three fingers,'and five have been played,' Manet holds up five fingers on his other hang,'how many have you seen?'"

Now later at admissions Elodin asks the exact same question. Exact. Numbers, fingers held up, almost verbatim. This isn't the only time he copies conversations Kvothe has though this is the most transparent, and it all maybe just a trick being played or not relevant or even unconsciously done, but it bothers the hell out of me.

 

Damn, I remember being bothered by that as well, but then I forgot about it as I continued on with the book. There's definitely more to Elodin than we've seen so far.

(btw it's the Eolian)

 

Just to preface this: I know that I'm about to over-reach with my speculation, and that's probably not a wise thing to do on a first post on a board. But reading through the thread, it seems like this is the best site for conspiracy theories for all thing Rothfuss. Onward to the over-reaching...

I remember an interview, and I think it was brought up a few pages back, where PR says he brought in Auri and Devi in re-writes pretty late into setting the story. So my thinking is that their characters probably intertwine at some point.

Which makes me think that Devi might try sneaking into the underthing and get Auri caught. That would set up Kvothe's rescue of Princess Ariel/Auri from the Rookery along with a battle of Alar's that would forever ruin the cobblestones of Imre.

I might be grasping at straws, but it seems like PR is setting Kvothe's true Berzerker Button to be harm coming to helpless females. (Drugging the false Ruh on principle vs hunting them into the woods once he sees the girls) And killing Devi in public would lose him his friends, the University, and set him travelling off to where he'd never have to hear the stories about himself again.

Or maybe I just really like the scene where Devi throws down and I want to see that again...

 

As I said earlier I really started liking Manet whenever he showed up in WMF. Would be a nice swerve if we found out he wasn't just a guy who loved to live it up at the University. Someone probably taught Elodin, right?

 

So, who do we know that changes their name?

Lanre -> Haliax

Kvothe -> Kote

Possibly Ariel -> Auri

Yeah; seems like Elodin has cause for freaking out. Bad things happen when names are changed.

 

Man. I wish I had thought of that. Oh...

Tl;DR: Lurk moar.

Re: Manet. The idea that he taught Elodin doesn't hold up, I feel. Maybe they're friends. But taught? We've seen that Manet is a "workhorse" i.e. a reliable worker but not particularly gifted.

 

Phantom handled it quite well, Taure. Or should he have been more specific and given you credit for the theory?

 

What Taure said regarding Manet. Not everyone is some mysterious character with hidden depths.

I predict that Kote will open the box in the third book, become Kvothe again, and then go HULKSMASH during some sort of town emergency.

 

And I fear that this will happen at the end of the book, leaving us waiting for the next books set in this universe, with hopefully the same hero.

 

Kvothe won't be the hero in the next series. He gets three books.

 

I haven't seen the interview where Rothfuss said that, since I don't have an audio card, but a long of things seem to be in the wording with him. From the first post where this was mentioned, I got the impression that the main character wouldn't be the same, the word 'hero' wasn't used.

With that impression, you could look at this as the main character in the Kingkiller Chronicles being Kote who is telling a story about Kvothe. If the theory on names is right, Kote could change his name back and it would still be about a different character.

 

So who is the true BBEG? Iax, the one who stole the moon, started the creation wars, and locked behind a stone door somewhere, or Haliax, leader of the seven and a host of other terrible deeds.

And I'm willing to bet we've already met one Amyr. Maybe Skarpi? Any other candidates?

 

I'm thinking that Iax was the one who tricked Lanre and changed his Name. As for the Amyr, I can't think of the name at the moment, but the guy in Tarbean taking care of the street kids seems like a possibility.

 

Iax is a good option - the other Namers powerful enough to do that are Selitos himself, Aleph who created the Amyr or Lyra, who was dead.

Question time - The region the University is in is called the Commonwealth, so is it some kind of protectorate of another empire? Is it a part of Atur, or some other kingdom? It isn't a part of Vint or Modeg, and it is next to Atur, but Atur is no longer an empire, or so we are led to believe.

 

I have a question.

If the logical progression from the end of Kvothe's story is to defeat the Chandrian and uncover the "big bad," whether it be Iax or Haliax or whomever, then how can Kvothe not be the protagonist in the books that come after the original trilogy?

Are we going to have some other super-badass who can stop a war and defeat the Chandrian pop onto the scene?

 

Also does nobody think that Loren is one of the Amyr? Master Librarian at the University where they teach fucking Magic. That or he's a red herring. I also have this weird feeling Elodin is also one of the Amyr.

 

You mean Master Librarian of the Library which A) Has had all references of the Amyr removed and B) Searches the globe for more books to bring back (and disappear?).

Loren seems to be a good bet. Also, he tried to persuade Kvothe to stop looking into the Amyr when he arrived.

Maybe the books on the Amyr are beyond the 4 plate door.