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Pet Peeves v.6? Maybe.

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dark Syaoran, Mar 28, 2012.

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  1. Warlocke

    Warlocke Fourth Champion

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    They'll when the writer means There'll (and the reverse, though I don't see that nearly as often).

    How much of a moron do you have to be- For fuck's sake, all you have to do is read your sentence, JUST ONCE, and a live and functioning brain will realize that this makes no sense.

    THINK!

    Proofread, and fucking THINK! :mad:
     
  2. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

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    Were it so easy.
     
  3. Hero of Stupidity

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  4. El Duderino

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    Said before, but I forgot about it, and it bit me in the arse.

    Thru, as opposed to through.

    Makes me want to fuck shit up. Badly.
     
  5. Warlocke

    Warlocke Fourth Champion

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    Use your words, Hero; what do you want? :awesome

    Sorry, that sounded too much like 'goo goo, gaga' for me to resist. Hehe.
     
  6. Portus

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    This is one of the only shortened words I ever use in my own writing, whether it's notes or posts on other forums, even in emails from time to time. I only don't do it at DLP (or maybe I do on occasion?) because I don't want to give reasons for anyone to dismiss my points.

    It's not as if the reader's going to mistake it for another word, or wonder what the writer means by it in the way that knew/new or know/now or would've/"would of" can throw off the reader's flow. "Thru" is perfectly alright in my book, and now I think on it, I do believe I'll just use that whenever the hell I want. I see IMHO, BTW, FWIW and AFAIK here all the time, so the rage any of you feel at seeing 'thru' in one of my posts is your problem, not mine.
     
  7. Skeletaure

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    Thing is, I can't think of a single other word in the English language where "u" corresponds to an "oo" sound. It just doesn't make that sound <_< The closest is something like "unicorn", but in words like that there's a "y" sound at the beginning.

    On top of that, it's very unusual for words in English to end with "u". I'm sure there are some - there are millions of words in English, after all - but it's not a common part of the language.

    For those two reasons, "thru" really is a terrible addition to English. Especially if your underlying motivation for writing "thru" is some idea of simplification/unification. "Thru" actually makes English more complicated than leaving it as "through".

    If you really wanted to make a more phonetic spelling of "through", it should be "throo". Or "threw". Or "throu".
     
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  8. Bill Door

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    I don't mind seeing things like thru in posts on a forum or things like that, but in a story, then it pisses me off. It just reeks of laziness from the writer, they must know that it's not the proper way of spelling it, so it can only be that they're too lazy to type the extra three letters. It's the same when I see numbers written with the actual digit, 3 instead of three, it just makes me rage.

    More like thrue, as in true.
     
  9. mknote

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    Emu does both, at least how I pronounce it. Of course, it's a noun, and it isn't exactly English, but meh.
     
  10. Portus

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    LOL Taure. No one said it's an actual word, just that - for me, and in the end that's the only criterion - it's a lot easier to type, particularly on a phone keyboard. Why in fuck would I go to 'thrue' or 'throo', when that happens to be more letters than 'thru'?

    And until you Brits drop the extraneous 'u' from colour, neighbour, humour, etc. your opinion is invalid.


    Oh, and I agree that seeing that (or almost any such shortening) in an actual story would be worthy of rage. There'd be no excuse for not running a find-replace before posting the story.
     
  11. Hw597

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    blasphemous, yankee bastard!

    Extraneous 'u' my arse. What language are you speaking-
    Ohh yes ENGLISH. So listen to your superiors and take note of the proper spelling.

    *shaking head* these young upstarts.

    p.s.
    My pet peeve is canon Voldemort; the man is a raving idiot. If you want your fic to be an improvement on canon just give your Voldemort a brain cell.
     
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  12. Heather_Sinclair

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    I think I just hurt myself laughing.
     
  13. Tasoli

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    dunno about you but I think their language is different enough to call it AMERICAN at this point.:p
     
  14. Skeletaure

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    Seriously? Is this DLP or the Daily Mail?

    I don't think there's anything more pointless than arguments over which dialect of a language is more correct.
     
  15. El Duderino

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    I do have to say though, until you ridiculous Americans stop saying things like 'aluminum', when the word is spelt as fucking 'aluminium, and realise that the dialect you speak is now a butchery of a language that originates from fucking England, and that you're wrong, if you ever think that 'colour' should be spelt 'color', or 'humour', as 'humor', because the language you speak is almost, but not quite, because of your astoundingly ridiculous changes to words, FUCKING ENGLISH.

    Gawd.

    /rant.

    Sort of not really but maybe I should say it anyway: Sorry. But not really. 'Cos I'm not. As well as English.
     
  16. redshell

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    I'm curious of whether or not you're aware of just how much the English language steals from other languages.

    Further, bitching about the pronunciation of Aluminium versus Aluminum (by the way, they both come up as correct on Chrome) is like bitching about Soda versus Pop. It accomplishes nothing, and at the end of the day, people are still going to say shit however the fuck they want to.
     
  17. Scrib

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    Yes, because Chrome is the authority...

    But yeah agree with everything else, things like "I could care less" used to bug me but honestly, it's pointless and you're not gonna win that battle. Just fucking pick one and stick to it. The idea that you can police English from a world away to prevent slightly different words or pronunciations forming is nonsensical.
     
  18. Skeletaure

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    Aluminium is a bit of an exception to the general case of there being no point in arguing, in so far as there is an authority to decide on these matters (IUPAC). In this case, they prefer "aluminium", though "aluminum" is an acceptable secondary spelling.

    The opposite is true for sulphur/sulfur, where the American usage is the dominant one - even in the UK.
     
  19. Hero of Stupidity

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    Hammerstein Magical Index. Just no.
     
  20. Rin

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    Which evolved from a mixture of Western Germanic languages, which evolved from Proto-Indo-European (with about 50 steps on either side of Western Germanic), which evolved from who knows what?

    When you use origins to prove who is correct or incorrect, you auto-fail because your "English" is just bad Germanic, which is just bad Indo-European, which is just bad something-or-other.

    Gengee fætel pintela súcan!*

    How do you pronounce them? I'm curious, because I pronounce them as [ˈkʌlɹ̩] and [ˈhʲumɹ̩], so as far as I'm concerned, that "o" is, in itself, utterly archaic and a waste of space on the page, never mind adding, what to any American, at least, would be an unpronounced "u". For most British English speakers, not only is that "u" completely extraneous, but so is the "r", as most British varieties of English aren't even rhotic; i.e., speakers of British English are more likely to pronounce them as [ˈkʌlə] and [ˈhʲumə] or [ˈʔʲumə].

    In any even, language of origin is a pretty bad argument to make about any writing system, since writing and language are not the same. This is like Chinese people bitching that Japanese write 関 instead of 關, especially since the Japanese could point out that they write 語 instead of 语, where Japan uses the more conservative variant. In the same way, apparently some retard Brit had more gall than a printing press in asking, "What kind of word is 'gotten'?" You know, the more conservative variant of the past-participle of "get" that Americans still use, but apparently the "English" have since abandoned, or at least, that retard did.

    *Yes, feel free to correct my Old English grammar.
     
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