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Pet Peeves v.6? Maybe.

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dark Syaoran, Mar 28, 2012.

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  1. Warlocke

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    That's where the Nazi retirement homes are. :|
     
  2. Joe's Nemesis

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    I'd hit the 'x' button right about that time anyway if I came across it in fanfiction because there's no reason to read something founded on an Oedipus complex. But how many fics have you come across that create the mating based on that scenario? I don't think I've read any of them.

    I have, however, read a few that denigrate the mating in canon by using it, but IMO, that comes across even more creepy. After all, an observation says more about the observer, than it does about what is observed.
     
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  3. Psychotic Cat

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    Well I read this one fic Oedipus Flower, as creepy as the title implies but worth a read. I think the author might even have an account here.
     
  4. TRH

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    Agreed, Oedipus Flower is full of win. And yes, Vash is indeed a member here, though IIRC he uses a different name on his FFN profile.
     
  5. Henry Persico

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    I would say, as an argentinian, that WWII was the worst war in history. It's an irrefutable fact.

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    Yep. USA too Warlocke.

    Tom Riddle was a child prodigy and a genius wizard. That's why he could do all the things you described. The Twins, the Marauders, Hermione, Harry they are above average compared to him. And Dumbledore can be fooled.
     
  6. Joe's Nemesis

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    With all due respect to Vash, that's just not a subject of a fic I'd be interested in. Now if it was Harry making the connection later, and then working through it, such as "How did I end up with someone who looks like my mother and what does that mean about me," development arc, I wouldn't mind reading.

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    The pet peeve that's risen to the top of my list lately: "So mote it be."

    Here's a hint, if the only time you've ever read it is in another cliche-filled fanfic - maybe it's a good idea not to copy it.
     
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  7. chrnno

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    I am personally torn, I don't mind seeing "So mote it be." when it is a completely formal ceremony. No sense in it appearing in any oath though.
    Well, I was thinking along the lines of during the war not after...

    Not really, depending how you qualify war you can easily drop it a few places. Especially if you stay with the official date of 1939-1945.
     
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  8. Chilli

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    Oh man, there was this story I started reading once where in every chapter every character kept making oaths to "prove" the truth of what they were saying and of course they all ended with "So mote it be". There must have been at least 10 oaths in every chapter. I tried to continue reading only to see if the author planned to, I don't know, advance the plot maybe, but it never happened. It was just one "mote" after another.
     
  9. Warlocke

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    lol The ones that ended up here didn't so much retire as get put to work... :ph34r:
     
  10. Joe's Nemesis

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    I've never thought it a coincidence that US space program started going downhill just about the same time that the oldest generation of Operation Paperclip began retiring/dying off, and seems to have gone downhill ever since.
     
  11. Bukay

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    There's a saying:

    Do you know how USA made it's first A-bomb?
    They put their German scientists to work.

    Do you know how USSR made it's first A-bomb?
    They put their German scientists to work too.
     
  12. Peace

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    Based on the fact that WW2 resulted in more deaths than any other war in, you know, history and the sheer scale of the destruction it caused WW2 was easily the worst war in history. More so if you include Japan's earlier campaigns in China. Let's not forget the Holocaust either.

    Pet Peeve: Bashing Molly Weasley. I've been seeing this in a lot of fic lately and it's really starting to piss me off. Yes she's overprotective but she's not the only parent who is and lets not forget that she took Harry in and cared for him.

    I especially like Swimdraconian's characterisation of her in Circular Reasoning. It's brief but I think that it captures and expands her canon personality perfectly.
     
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  13. Immet

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    I'd be tempted to say the worst war was against Spanish Flu. Five times as many people fought against Spanish Flu and the fighting took place across more of the world. One in 40 people died during WW2, whereas one in 30 died fighting Spanish Flu. Spanish Flu was much worse.

    I think we won though- we only took 10% casualties with 50 million people killed by Spanish Flu. And I have no idea how many trillions of Spanish Flu we killed.

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    About Molly Weasley- she's not evil but I can definitely see why she's bashed.

    Firstly she doesn't really take Harry in and care for him any more than any mother would care for their son's friend while they are staying. Secondly she's the main face for the people stopping Harry & Co. from attending OotP meetings and forcing them into busywork during the summer of OotP and as such is most blamed. Thirdly there's the love potion usage which she views as amusing. Fourthly theres the blatant hatred of Fleur which while not as bad as Ginny is very nasty. Fifthly there's the cock-blocking of Neville and stealing his kill of Bellatrix.
     
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  14. Georgesickle

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    The thing that annoyed me about Mrs. Weasely was that she sent Hermione a smaller Easter egg after the Rita Skeeter article in fourth year. It just seemed a bit petty for a grown woman to treat a teenage girl like that. She's one of those people from the Wizarding world who believe everything they read in the paper. She was also a Gilderoy Lockhart fan and, most annoyingly of all, sends Howlers (which just seem really obnoxious to me).
     
  15. chrnno

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    Which is why I said it makes more sense to say 1937-1945. Plenty of deaths happened in China and Japan on those first 2 years of war.

    Anyway the reason I said it is arguably is if you include things like the Holocaust or the Ukrainians civilians killed by Stalin you then end up having to consider the whole 'discovery' of America. In total there even if you include deaths only indirectly related to ww2 is still several times bigger. It also ended far more cultures.

    And off course you also end up having to consider relative number of deaths instead of absolute like the Spanish Flu example above.

    Yeah, it's not like you even need to bash her for her to be really annoying. She fluctuates a lot between overprotective mother and immature teenager.
     
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    Molly Weasley is what's wrong with the wizarding world. Much more so than Voldemort or Dumbledore. If the population wasn't people like her, the big guys couldn't have gotten away with the shit they pulled. This is true IRL too.
     
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    Molly is actually quite well-characterized on how she hated Fleur. The dumpy housewife who's hit the wall and let herself go in middle age, and the beautiful, thin woman who's still young, and taking the attention that would otherwise be directed to her daughter? Surely that doesn't have any real life parallels? I wonder if JKR knew how much it'd resonate in America lol.

    I'm surprised she put that in her books, but more power to her.
     
  18. Warlocke

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    This!

    It's pretty obvious that the Wizarding World is full of people who let the tabloids do their thinking for them, but I don't think many people would suspect a main character's own mother would be part of the blind majority who helped prolong the Voldemort problem.

    It doesn't even matter that Molly has met Hermione, she just reads what's in the paper and knows it must be true.

    Kind of clever of JKR to let everyone know that, yeah, even the good guys are part of the problem; you don't have to be killing 'mudbloods' with Unforgivable curses to be part of why Wizarding Britain sucks so bad for Harry and his friends. Makes me wonder how many, among the books' target age group, caught on to this.

    Of course, the 'parents are annoying, embarrassing, and just don't understand' angle, that Molly's actions frequently represent, is much more readily apparent.

    I can't help but wonder how Molly would react to a Dumbledore who actually trained Harry to fight and truly prepared Harry for battle. Would she swallow her objections and go along with it because 'Dumbledore knows best', or would she loudly protest, make it clear that her children wouldn't be a part of it, and try to extend the definition of 'her children' to include Hermione, after it was made clear to her that she couldn't speak for Harry?
     
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    Write this fic, Warlocke, for I shall read the FUCK out of it.
     
  20. Chilli

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    Doesn't the same thing happen IRL though? The whole Obama birth certificate controversy comes to mind (I am NOT starting a political discussion here, this is just an example). Granted, percentage-wise the comparison doesn't hold, but I think for an insular society like that of Wizarding Britain, the number of people who don't think further than what their press says would be larger. And I say press in general instead of tabloid because to them that's what the Daily Prophet is.
    And let's not forget that it took Hermione, supposedly the smart, rational one, quite a bit of personal contact with Lockhart until she accepted that he was a fraud.
     
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