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Pet Peeves v.7

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dark Syaoran, Jan 31, 2013.

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  1. CrippledGod

    CrippledGod Banned

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    Alexx, If a 16 year old Harry Potter notices anything about his friends Hermione and Ginny, I'm pretty certain that it wouldn't be their beautiful chocolate coloured eyes.
     
  2. Andrela

    Andrela Plot Bunny DLP Supporter

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    Yes, the insanity of most ffnet readers.
     
  3. Joe's Nemesis

    Joe's Nemesis High Score: 2,058 ~ Prestige ~

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    Hey, anything's possible in FF. Tell me you couldn't see a summary based on this idea. Something like:

     
  4. Alexx

    Alexx Card Captored and buttsecksed

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    Funnily enough these are the most recent Harry/Ginny, Harry/Hermione fics summaries.

    Sixteen Years » by Council

    Sixteen years later marks Harry Potter's forced return to the wizarding world after being banished to the muggle world for sixteen years. When he returns, he will be forced to fight, but in his own, Shotgunning, Motorcycling, Firewielding unique style. DifferentBWL, H/G, TwinPotters, Mature/Powerful/Wizards, Awesome and Intense Wizarding Duels await.

    The Lies of Albus Dumbledore » by Kateisacupcake

    That Harry Potter is the boy-who-lived, who vanquished Voldermort is based purely on the word of the Great Albus Dumbledore. What if Albus Dumbledore wasn't the great man that everyone believed? How would it change Harry's world? Very OOC. Definitely not for fans of Dumbledore or the Weasley Slytherin!Harry HxHr

    The Power He Knows Not » by charmedbaby21894

    What if Harry has been manipulated all his life to be what he is today? In order to take hold of his destiny, Harry must first harness the power he knows not. He must also find out who is truly his friend and who wishes to do him harm. HHr, NL, Weasley/Dumbledore bashing. Starts in mid-July after OotP

    Harry Potter and the Story of Independence » by Android 101

    Harry stands up to the Dursleys at a young age and learns about magic earlier than anyone expected. A much darker and untrusting Harry enters Hogwarts, and in a world where enemies surround him, who can he trust? A young red-haired girl may hold the key to opening him up and saving him from the darkness inside him. I don't own Harry Potter or any of the characters J.K.Rowling does.

    Harry Xavier Riddle » by Ginevra 'Ginny Gin' Weasley

    Harry Riddle. That was his name. The famous, dark and feared Riddle. Lord Voldemort's son. But what if there were more to him. What if he wasn't just the evil spawn of Lord Voldemort. What if he could love? What if he was in love?

    LOL
     
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  5. Zeelthor

    Zeelthor Scissor Me Timbers

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    If you wonder why crappy fics are popular...?

    Well, why the heck is Twilight popular despite being crap? Because people are stupid. :p
     
  6. Alexx

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    You know my peeve with all those fics listed is it's hard to see a independent, dark or evil Harry with Ginny or Hermione.
     
  7. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

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    Not so difficult to imagine, to be honest.
     
  8. Alexx

    Alexx Card Captored and buttsecksed

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    Do you really think Hermione would tolerate Harry learning Dark Arts and hurting others for his own gains? Or Independent Harry sets himself against an authority who Hermione worships. Harmony simply can't work.
     
  9. Photon

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    At least make effort and check what already is in the Library.
     
  10. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

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    IIRC, Hermione's the one of the trio most likely to go Dark. So yeah, I could see it. Theoretically, anyway.
     
  11. Photon

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    Romance in the first year anyway is idiotic, creepy and squicky. And makes for bad stories.

    Later? Remember Umbridge and implied rape by centaurs? SNEAK? Illegal Time-Turner use? Seventh year?

    Hermione is really easy to present as blind worshipper of Dumbledore or going completely "Fuck everybody, I know better what and how everything should be done" (like she did it with House Elves). Obviously something in the middle usually is better.
     
  12. Alexx

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    Hermione the one who blocked Harry and Ron from showing absolute mercilessness to their enemies in DH? the scenes were trying to deal with Dolohov and Griphook are example of this.
     
  13. Alexx

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    Umbridge? She was going to torture Harry and she had to came up with a plan and that plan didn't include Centaur.

    SNEAK? Thats just a hex.

    Illegal time turner use? Did you forget it was Dumbledore who she worships telling her to do it.

    7th year? What?

    She has a strong moral code. SPEW is a perfect example of this.
     
  14. someone010101

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    Hermione is the most obsessive, it's easy to turn that obsession to dark revolutions or using dark methods to accomplish her goals.

    Ron woudn't turn dark, he doesn't have the conviction to go to far. I don't see Harry as caring much for visions, revolutions or deep magics he seems to look for the fight in front of him, not the far future. Though of course, being the protagonist, he's bound to have some fics.

    Ginny - actually, I've read a few fics were Ginnys darker in a sideplot. In one of them, Voldemort himself waited in the DoM and cleaned up Harrys friends. While they futily fought him and died, Ginny did nothing for two minutes, then fired a killing curse at him. He dodged it and killed her, but hey, it was a nice scene.

    In another it was an assortment of characters wronged by Voldemort preparing to fight him in their own way, supposed to show how Voldemort made his own enemies. Dudley with his gang and muggle weapons ftw. Ginny had a shard from the Diary left within her and was prepared to draw on it. Her eyes turned red.

    Come to think of it, it's pretty easy to have Ginny turn to the dark. Diary possession might have left traces. And Ginny's obsessed with Harry for the first few years, she would do anything for him. Anything. Hey, I wonder where Malfoy went to, I havn't seen him since he threw insults at Potter last thursday.

    Reminds me for the sideplot of an original fiction I've had in my mind, one girl is in love with the hero, who's prophesied to fight a villian far stronger then him. She knows the hero, who is conveniently an old friend and comrade of hers, needs help and would never condon something drastic, so she dabbles in dark arts in an effort to get powerful enough to make a difference, and goes behind his back to scare his enemies.

    When the hero falls in love with and is betrothed to another girl, she decides to 'fix' that, and anyway, she'd make a much better wife and deserves her dream, now that she's done so much for him, and doses him with a lovepotion. Her manipulations, meddling with dark forces and questionable tactics eventually get out and the hero and his companions are understandably cross with her. She turns and seeks revenge against those who have wronged her for much of the rest of the story.
     
  15. Henry Persico

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    I read again the conversation from the end of OotP. Harry arrived safe and healthy to Hogwarts, as Dumbledore said. A malnourished boy, beaten all day as fanfic authors love to write, it's not "safe and healthy". Dumbledore acted appalled in HBP because it was the first time he was face to face with them in 15 years. But it didn't mean he hadn't been personally watching Harry's childhood (keep in mind it's what I like to imagine).

    Maybe he couldn't change the way the Dursleys treated Harry because of the Protection Charm placed on Number 4. Remember, the Charm was successfully completed because Petunia took Harry in on her free will. Maybe chat with them about their treatment was risky (he, in fact, did chat with them in the last year the Charm would be in effect, after Harry returned for the summer).

    Still, the Dursleys treatment is exaggerated. And Canon evidence doesn't change my interpretation about how did Dumbledore to "watch Harry closely". I still think some days he did it in person.


    Are you on crack, man? How long has it been since you read the Harry Potter series, not fanfiction crap? When did Dumbledore send Harry to die?

    From the end of GoF, Dumbledore knew Harry would win. What do you thought the "look of triumph" was? It meant that he found a way (thanks to Lord Voldemort's resurrection) to bypass the need to sacrifice Harry and the peace of soul he had in his scar. Ergo, Harry's victory was guaranteed in that exact moment, with that fucking "look of triumph".

    A piece of advice: Go read the books again. And, please, stop the shit you write in this forum.
     
  16. Alexx

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    "And you knew this? You knew - all along?"
    "I guessed. But my guesses have, usually, been good" said Dumbledore..

    So even having good guesses, Dumbledore still took the chance of being wrong and having Harry truly killed. Yeah he cared for Harry but he didn't love him as you believe. If he did Harry would never have been subjected to 16 years of neglect, abuse and even out-right torture from the Dursleys.
     
  17. afrojack

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    Safe and healthy, yes, but even Dumbledore admits he was thinner or smaller than he would have liked, IIRC.
     
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  18. Henry Persico

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    I don't think he ever uses words like smaller or thinner. He said "well-nourished and happy". And in HBP, when he talks with the Dursleys he only criticizes the "neglect and often cruelty".



    And to finally take down the "emaciated body" myth unskilled fanfic authors like to write about:

    Tall man by British standards is at least 6 feet.

    There you have it, the ultimate truth that his time with the Dursleys didn't affect his physical growing. He's as tall as his father, who is tall by British standards, ergo at least 6 feet. An undernourished child doesn’t become tall by his late teens.
     
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  19. EkulTeabag

    EkulTeabag Seventh Year

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    Maybe he was given those convenient nourishing potions while at Hogwarts.
     
  20. someone010101

    someone010101 High Inquisitor

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    We can safely say, were Harry as safe and healthy as Dumbledore wanted, he'd have the physice of a greek god and God watching over him.

    In a similar vein, just because Mrs. Weasley says he looks like it doesn't mean he's actually starving.
     
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