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Almost Recommendable Worm Fanfiction

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by NoxedSalvation, Nov 12, 2013.

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  1. Vira

    Vira Third Year ~ Prestige ~

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    It's on SB, which is down for anti-lag maintenance. I'll toss up a link when it's back up.

    Short summary is that Taylor is a Tinker who specializes in clockwork AI bots and has built a team of them, each with their own, distinct personality, and with abilities that functionally make them parahumans in their own right.

    The author occasionally wanks his own characters to a limited extent and is clearly biased against the PRT and the heroes, but if you can deal with that, it's pretty good.

    Edit: @Vira: You're thinking of a different fic. I believe the "Taylor is Dave" thing was called Pendulum.
     
  3. Vira

    Vira Third Year ~ Prestige ~

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    You're right. Damn these fics with their similar titles. :(
     
  4. Daedros

    Daedros Seventh Year

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    A strong urge to write a Tinker!Taylor story entitled Tinker Taylor, Soldier, Spy just overcame me.
     
  5. South of Hell

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    Go on then.
     
  6. Vir

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    Found it! But spacebattles is down (turned off apparently, whatever that means).
     
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    Sorry for the rambling, but this idea was stuck in my head. No plot present.

    How to work the HP/Worm cross.

    A long time ago, a shard got stuck in one universe on earth and developed very differently from Scion and Eden. It allowed its hosts to use energy in a form which they called magic. All magic users are those with splinter shards of this one. This explains why most kids of magical parents have magic. It also explain why muggleborns exist, with some splinters getting lost and finding other kids. Like in the case of trigger events, we have accidental magic when kids are terrified and first connect with the shard.

    Instead of having so many different, powerful shards that only allow one power to its recipient, we have descendants of one worm/shard which have multiple capabilities. It also explains the extremely ridiculous/frustrating/arbitrary rules of HP. The shards restrict certain types of usage.

    The killing curse works not by kicking out the soul, but by destroying the connection a person has with his or her shard and also killing them. The resurrection stone calls back these shards like the Fairy Queen does. The Elder wand allows one to channel power bypassing the restrictions placed by shards. The Invisibility cloak hides one from all shard related powers.

    As to Horcruxes, by splitting his soul, Voldemort split his shard itself.

    The splinters of the original shard, instead of giving power to humans only has evolved to attach to a variety of living organisms, giving them some sentience and also powers. I'm pretty sure we could explain everything about magic in HP.

    The shard had isolated this dimension from every other one. After many millions of years, its species visits earth and the barrier between dimensions weaken. HP gets pulled into Aleph/Bet and the story goes on however you want to take it.
     
  8. Daedros

    Daedros Seventh Year

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    That's clever and fits nicely, I really like it. A story based on that could be pretty cool.

    My own crossover idea was just a summary:

    Scion is in the process of destroying Earth -- all Earths that ever were and ever could be. But precisely forty-two percent of the way through, he comes upon an Earth that is different from the others. This Earth is protected. And the Master of Death does not condone genocide.

    Wording it like that, I also just realized you could replace 'Master of Death' with 'Doctor' and have a DW crossover.
     
  9. meev

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    Then why does it kill stuff other than wizards and destroy things that aren't alive? Also it doesn't kick out the soul in canon, that's what Dementors do. It kills, because it's The Killing Curse.
     
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    @Infidel: Sounds like it could be neat.

    @meev: The Killing Curse mechanics are stupid. "Hurr it just kills." I for one don't give a shit if someone bends canon to provide an alternate explanation. Or rather, any explanation.
     
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    So wait. Magicking away your soul killing you (which contradicts already established mechanic of removing your soul not killing your body) somehow makes more sense to you than magicking you to death. Like, magic being able to kill people by killing them is just ridiculous, but magic removing their soul (which is just as unexplainable) and that by proxy killing them is completely logical? I just... what?

    This is like that thing where people think having magical energy somehow automatically makes more logical sense even if it takes fuck all magical energy to do crazy super energy intensive stuff like change or create matter isn't it. If you have to at some point explain it entirely by "lol it's magic" anyway then there's no fucking difference in terms of it's logical or scientific validity.

    There's nothing wrong with complex magical systems, especially when they make the story more fun, but don't act like it's a more logical and valid explanation when it's not at all. Especially when in cases like this example it's just pointless complication. It literally adds nothing but makes less sense.
     
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  12. Erandil

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    It seems like a lot of unnecessary work if all you want to achieve is having HP in the Worm Verse. Simply let him fall through a dimensional door or something like that and don´t explain his powers but let them be mysterious. Even Worm spend a a few hundred thousand words before starting to explain the mechanic behind its power system. (And to be fair, I don´t see the attraction behind an HP/Worm Crossover. I don´t think they would mesh well together.)
    Like other said your AK mechanic makes even less sense than the normal one, which at least has the advantage of being simple.
     
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    If you think I'm going to derail the topic to engage in yet another stupid circle-jerk "debate" on why the Killing Curse mechanics are stupid (and they still are despite your little lecture), you're mistaken.
     
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    Honestly, I'm not sure why "a spell that flat-out kills you" is any more absurd than "a spell that ensures you can't ever remember specific information unless told by a specific individual" or "you cannot hold this job for more than a year".

    I mean, the vast majority of HP magic is incredibly absurd and nonsensical from a purely mechanical perspective, but the killing curse isn't any more-so than anything else. It seems a little hypocritical to accept some of it and not the others.
     
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    The killing curse ignores every shield, kills every living creatures and destroys any object - except the witches statue in the ministry entrance hall. Dumbledore animatedv that to protect Harry and the killing curse just bounced straight off.
     
  16. Daedros

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    Liking HP and liking Worm and wanting to smush them together is the only real reason to do a crossover, because as you've all so astutely pointed out, HP magic revels in its own absurdity. That's one reason the world seems so magical, for lack of a better world -- it's a caricature. Magic in HP works the way you sorta think it ought to work, as long as you don't think about it too hard. And that's okay.

    On the other hand, though, Worm is the opposite. Worm is entirely about creating a real atmosphere. All powers are accomplished in ways that don't directly defy logic, aside from the initial leap, and the 'magic system' -- the shards -- are explained almost entirely. To parallel my earlier statement, Worm revels in its realism.

    But I like both of these things, fanfiction is for fun, and I want to smush them together, so I'm probably going to try a HP/Worm crossover at some point.
     
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    Go for it, should be interesting to see how you manage to get the two to play nice with one-another.
     
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    I think we only saw the killing curse a few times in canon (it's been a while since I read any of it), and even fewer where the target is not a wizard - the only one that springs to mind is Frank Bryce, in GoF. This can easily just be edited to a muggle-killing curse.

    And if the killing curse removes the connection, which causes the death of a wizard or witch, it gives another reason for magical beings to look down on muggles. The one spell that magic doesn't protect from doesn't do them any harm. It works on wizards or witches, it even works on GOBLINS, for Merlin's sake, but it doesn't work on muggles.
     
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    I was gonna throw that up, good catch. I agree it's early days, but so far I'm liking it. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.
     
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