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"A Song of Ice and Fire" stories

Discussion in 'Story Search' started by purple, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Sn0rkack

    Sn0rkack Professor

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    Maybe that's why GRRM doesn't want anyone muddying up his story
     
  2. Odran

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    Considering that the Starks get fucked all kinds of ways to Sunday and back in the official books, not really.

    Besides, there's far worse issues at hand in ASOIAF fanfics and that mainly concerns the pairings, whichever the authors may conjure up. The most annoying, not to mention how utterly fucking disturbing, is Hound/Sansa.

    Oh and the countless modern AU fics. Those too tend to be 99% utter shit.
     
  3. pidl

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    Not to mention the story is so bloody easy to fix:

    Bran climbs another tower: fixed.
    Sansa decides not to lie for Joffrey: fixed.
    Ned decides to ask someone besides Littlefinger about Tyrion betting against Jaime: fixed.
    Robert doesn't meet a boar during the hunt, or is so drunk he falls from his horse: fixed.
    Robb decides to tell Edmure their strategy: fixed.
    Robb realises sending your only hostage to negotiate is a bad idea: fixed.
     
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  5. gbbz

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    Not really. I think that very few are "Stark fix-it fics".

    Most stories over 5000 words are either Sansa/Sandor or Arya/Gendry.
    There is also a lot of Jaime/Brienne fics.

    There aren't many fics which do not feature Ned dying or the Red Wedding.
    I think what you were trying to say is that there aren't many readable, not romance oriented, ASOIAF stories which include Eddard Stark as a main character, that aren't fix-its. Even then I would not entirely agree.

    "Fool's Gold" illustrates this perfectly. People just love to emulate George Martin so much, they are not willing to leave the Starks alone (alive). Even "Ned Stark Lives" (the exemplary fix-it) has taken on a darker theme recently.
     
  6. Nauro

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    Oh, there needs to be a story like that. Everything bad in the books that happens to Starks gets averted. Instead, things go wrong elsewhere, and everything turns out worse.

    Bran doesn't get injured, so further down the line, he outright refuses to leave for the three eyed crow, because he doesn't believe in such things. This kind of argument with the Reeds leaves him vulnerable to be caught by Theon, who actually murders the little Stark Children.

    Sansa doesn't cover for Joffrey, and he send the man with the dagger to kill her. Since the wolves are spared, but locked, there's no one to interfere and save her in time.

    Ned investigates the dagger, coming closer to finding the truth, but when he tries to blame Littlefinger, there's both little in the way of evidence, and in the end, he finds out that it was Joffrey who ordered the Sansa's murder.

    Distraught and enraged he confronts Robert (who is alive after the hunt) about it, and when he finally goes to his old friend about the bastardry of Joffrey, Robert accuses Ned of trying to steal the throne from his son, throwing him in jail.

    When Joffrey becomes king (since the plot to end Robbert is still at 120%+), he still executes Ned.

    Since Sansa had died, Ned sends Arya back home, where she runs into Tyrion, just as a war between Starks and Lanisters begins. Instead of having Sansa in the capital and Arya running free, we have a story of Arya being held in the capital and trying to rebel, but constantly failing.

    Robb agrees to marry a daughter of a Frey, and actually goes along with it, sealing the alliance for the North, but even as he wins battle after battle against Lanisters, he is getting worn out and tired, with the North still in the hands of Greyjoys. When the brothers die, he rushes back for Winterfel, only to die from Roose Bolton's hand with no interference from Lanisters. Since he has a small child with a Frey daughter, the Freys move in to fill the power vacuum, giving Bolton a smaller bite.

    In the end, there are no Starks left alive, since there's no reason for Littlefinger to save Aria (who is at the capital in Sansa's place), and she takes a fall for the poisoning of Joffrey.
     
  7. Odran

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    Jesus, people just love shitting on the Starks, don't they?

    Not saying that what you wrote isn't technically sound, but I fucking hate you for it.

    If I wanted to get depressed, I'd just go back to reading Russian literature.
     
  8. Creticus

    Creticus First Year

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    Personally, I think it depends on where you look.

    AH has a large number of stories that boost the Starks at the expense of their enemies in the canon series, ranging from shooting Tywin with guns to making Steve Rogers a Stark bannerman. Some of it is well-written, but I really don't think tossing physical challenges at Captain America is the way to tell a good story.

    It's particularly irritating because Captain America with either the Sparrows or the Brotherhood without Banners would've been a much more interesting setup.
     
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  9. Hashasheen

    Hashasheen Half-Blood Prince

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    I've been running a game over on spacebattles where the players control Jon Snow from birth for a year now. It's been amusing to see them accidentally change canon so early and then taunt them with their lack of potential knowledge as how to operate going forward.
     
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    Link, please? Because this sounds interesting.
     
  11. Sn0rkack

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    Since you didn't mention Jon I'm just going to assume he teams up with Dany and burns everyone alive.
     
  12. meev

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    Jon isn't a Stark. That should be pretty obvious, what with his name not being Stark.

    Also nothing in there would change his canon fate.
     
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  13. Odran

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    What fate would that be? Consider, before you reply, for a moment the fact that he's listed as alive in the appendix of TWOW.
     
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    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Does Jon consider himself a Stark? I know that the whole 'bastard' business was drilled into him early on and that he never expected to be accepted as a Stark, but does he consider himself part of the family? Share their ideals, love the rest of the members, etc.

    I haven't read the books, obviously.
     
  15. Odran

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    He certainly loves the boys, but as far as the girls are concerned he prefers Arya over Sansa, though at one point, he notes that he misses them all, even Sansa who never called or considered him as anything more than a half-brother, unlike the rest of them.

    And yes, he does. He considers himself a part of the family, shares their ideals and so on... and would be in truth part of the family were it not for Catelyn Tully. He also wouldn't have gone to the Wall, but staying at Winterfell with Catelyn Tully being there was simply not an option.
     
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    The Open way has updated.
    And by sending Ellia away, Rhaegar has stirred up Dorne.
     
  18. Odran

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    The Whispering Ghosts (Left You Out In The Cold) is a one-shot, pairing centric (Jon/Sansa), 10k words long, which I came across today and recommend it because it has that lovely grim and dark feeling that I occasionally enjoy to indulge myself in.
     
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    How about that baby, eh Lyanna?
     
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