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A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin [Spoilers]

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by Philly Homer, May 3, 2009.

  1. Wynter

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    Damn, even though I knew that ending was coming, I still didn't want it to.

    The fight felt rushed, I felt it should have gone one for maybe another minute or so, otherwise it was excellent. Well done by the actor who played Oberyn.

    That scene with Tyrion and Jaime about the beetles, was by far my favorite though.
     
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    Yeah that scene was boss. I loved the slow descent from jokey mcjoketown to 'what does it all mean' despair.
     
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    Thought it was brilliant myself.

    Selmy was awesome when confronting Mormont.
     
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    Didn't really know how to feel about the beetle scene, other than liking it. I came out of it feeling like he was trying to make some statement that could be applied to the will to conquest (or just life in that universe in general, I suppose). Just piling corpses to have some measure of power, in whatever capacity you can manage. Morbid stuff.
     
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    God fucking fuck.

    Knew it would happen - still the most annoying moment in the series so far.
     
  6. Odran

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    Huh, I didn't know they had the Sith in Westeros, but this episode, and that Sansa scene, proved me wrong.

    Behold, Darth Lemoncake.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Himuradono

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    Dammit all, I knew it was going to happen. I freakin' knew it and still--- seeing it. *That Splat* I loved the duel. The choreographic, the tempo and Oberyn's expression bordering between rage and happiness... and then, *Splat*

    Moat Cailin was, I don't know. Somehow they hadn't grasped the horror and monstrosity that is Ramsey Snow, but the scene with Roose. That one was pure boss. Man has presence, gotta give him that.

    Sansa and Baelish, I'm getting nauseous. Really I am.

    And the stairs scene:
    First thought: Holy Shit they have Maleficent Jr.
    Second thought: Of for fucks sake, really?



    Her face looks plump.

    If she keeps swaying those hips like that no vase will be safe with her in the room.
     
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  8. Odran

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    Yeah, they seem to be speeding up on that fan-favorite theory where Sansa apprentices under Littlefinger (in some ways, quite literally under him, as they're not too subtle in that part), learns the 'game' and starts becoming an expert in all that convoluted shit which by the end of the day is irrelevant, so long as you have a weapon in your hand and the schemer only his tongue.
     
  9. Himuradono

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    On the other hand, no ninja Arya. Always a plus.
     
  10. Odran

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    Arya's cackling gave me a grin.

    Also, that abomination that's pretending to be Bronze Yohn Royce:

    [​IMG]

    When he's described like this:

    And should look approximately like this:

    [​IMG]
     
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    So wait, are they hinting that Sansa and Littlefinger banged?

    And so true about Bronze Yohn. I wanted to see his rune armor.
     
  12. Himuradono

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    They are giving us a *wink* and a smug smile.
    It's all three kinds of squick.
     
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  13. Odran

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    They're on the verge of it, if they haven't actually done it yet. Which I doubt. The way they show her off at the end just implies that suddenly Sansa has turned into this femme fatal, who's gonna be twirling men around her little finger (an apt saying in this case). The problem is I still see her as a little girl, crying in turns for lack of lemocakes and her own tragic life.

    The sudden transformation, in the span of one night, is what will most likely push me even more away from that character's arc in the show.

    What pisses me even more is that this way they have completely cut out the development arcs of her personality, where she is pretending to be a bastard herself, Alayne Stone, gets acquainted with Mya Stone (who is now most assuredly cut out from the show) befriends her, learns more of life's hardships whereas the show just hands her shit on a silver platter.
     
  14. Himuradono

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    The Mya Stone part was bound to be edited out. But they really did a fast-forward with Sansa and yes, 'the transformation' in a span of a night....
    She's even wearing freakin' feathers. They just should tattoo 'Team Mockingbird' on her forehead and be done with it.
     
  15. Giovanni

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    I really enjoyed this episode. All of my favorite characters continued to have good things happen to them, and the deaths proceeded as scheduled.

    1. I appreciated watching Ramsey Snow become Ramsey Bolton. I've been favorably disposed toward his character since his creation of Reek. Using Reek to get a garrison of Iron Born to abandon their posts before flaying them alive was simply marvelous. There's just something fun about rooting for a character who is unrepentantly evil in the pursuit of his goals. Yes, he's a one dimensional sadistic psychopath, but like the Bounty Hunter in the Objects in Space episode of Firefly, he appreciates the substance of things. 10/10 for style too.

    2. Littlefinger managed to get off the hook for his casual murder of Lysa Arryn, due entirely to Sansa Stark finally figuring out how not to be a blithering idiot for a few minutes. His burgeoning plot to put Robin in a position to die is also rather wonderful. This does not change the fact that I despise Sansa's character (she's been playing in the big leagues for too many seasons to display such a marginal degree of competence), but this is a good change of pace. Now, instead of being perpetually disappointed, I'm able to point to something and say "this one time, you weren't horrible."

    She's still weak and reactive rather than pro-active, but after 4 seasons of being a failure it's about time her character started to turn it around. The whole creepy pedobear uncle/underage niece dynamic is gross though.

    3. Prince Oberyn getting his head squashed during his moment of triumph was great. It fits very well with Martin's decision to sunder every thing a character cares about just as soon as they're about to get it. I'm most happy about it because of my Facebook newsfeed though - so many people who didn't know it was coming . . . so many people who made the mistake of eating hamburger for dinner before watching it.

    4. Grey Worm. That is all.

    5. Arya Stark laughing her ass off upon finding out that her Aunt, Lysa, was dead.

    Dude, it's not just because Team Mockingbird. It's because she's a Kesha fan. Kesha is why she has all these feathers in her hair.
     
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  16. Odran

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    Too much Tully blood in her veins, I suspect. She ought to be leeched.

    You liked that? I mean, the sort-of-romance subplot is just plain unnecessary, he's not like that all.

    There is a far better scene for that kind of thing in the books:

     
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    Oh I know, but every minute of screen time that Grey Worm gets is a minute that I am happy. I know that the romantic subplot isn't necessary/is better done in other ways in the books, but still. Grey Worm. That is all.
     
  18. Himuradono

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    Once again I feel embarrassed for being a member of the same species as that... woman with 'feathers in mah har'. And to think she spawned.

    While I like Grey Worm the parts where he's pining after Missandei from afar while channeling his peeping tom impulses while semi-diving are cringe inducing and are nothing more but pandering to the audience wanting their doomed romance between an eunuch and former-slave girl.

    The latter part in the throne room was quaint and very awww. I mean Missandei is a stand up gal. She's sorry they cut off your junk but also she's happy you helped discover her voyeuristic tendencies. And Grey Worm, no only being a bad ass killer, is glad he aided her in this discovery.
    Then, they agreed to further explore their kinks even if no penetrations will be had. *Sob*
     
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    "Robin, you do not yet realize your importance. You've only begun to discover your power! Join me, and I will complete your training! With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict, and bring order to the Vale.

    "I'll never join you!"

    "If only you knew the power of the Dark Side. Lord Baelish never told you what happened to your mother.

    "He told me enough! He told me she committed suicide!"

    "No, he killed your mother."

    "No. No! That's not true! That's impossible!"

    "Search your feelings; you know it to be true!"

    "NOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOO!!!"

    Robin, you can destroy the Lannisters. They have foreseen this. It is your destiny! Join me, and together, we can rule the Seven Kingdoms as cousins! Come with me. It is the only way.

    [Robin lets go and falls down the Moon Door.]
     
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