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"A Song of Ice and Fire" stories

Discussion in 'Story Search' started by purple, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. carl

    carl Seventh Year

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    I also, wouldn't mind reading this but understand why you might not want to release it. :)
     
  2. Voldemorts-understudy

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    I'll one up that. Though it depends largely on how much power hp has in the scenario. Can't really understand why you wouldn't want to release it but the closest thing I've come to writing fiction is filling out technical reports with a bit of bullshit so probably shouldn't comment on it. If you do post it somewhere do post a link here though.
     
  3. Odran

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    While he is powerful, adult Harry Potter after all, he isn't quite near, if I have to put it so bluntly, the power levels of Voldemort or Dumbledore at their individual peaks. Getting his mind messed up by the transition from one world to the other isn't helping things either.

    At first, he uses magic because he can't survive otherwise, not at first anyway. Whether it is to defend himself, to hunt for food, to provide himself with some reprieve from the elements (he ends up in the North after all) to learn a language and so on, magic is his first and only tool he has, until he learns to be more self-sufficient.

    After all, showing off his magic as something quite common to him would bring unwanted attention to him. Which is how he comes to the attentions of both Starks and Boltons.

    The trick was not curbing Harry, putting a damper on his usage of magic in general, so much as providing him with a purpose to exist in Westeros, to want to prosper, to want to do more than merely react to whatever situation presents itself to him. Long-term shit, basically.
     
  4. Voldemorts-understudy

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    Okay, does he arrive with a wand or is that a situation? sounds fairly interesting at any rate, how much did you write?

    Also not posting it because English isn't your first language is a bit of a stretch. An average pond-frog makes a better writer than an average American after all, it is known.

    I somehow doubt that someone that could so eloquently describe their lack of descriptive power completely lacks descriptive power. I probably shouldn't hassle you too much I suppose, If I ever bothered to write something I probably wouldn't bother to publish it either, the internetz is a harsh mistress afterall.
     
  5. Captain Trips

    Captain Trips High Inquisitor

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    I recently found this story, A Song of Changes Past.

    Summary given by the author : Lyanna married Oberyn Martell and bore her son Jon Martell, Robert never rebelled and married Lysa Tully. Brandon Stark died while on the way to Kings Landing and in lieu of marrying Ashara Dayne Eddard married Catelyn and became Lord of Winterfell.

    Cersei Lannister, having proven to be fertile with the birth of her bastard son Joffery Hill, marries elderly Jon Arryn. Now more than a decade later the children of these lords and ladies have grown up and under the call of Elia Martell are coming to Kings Landing to make alliances, woo maidens, kill and cause all sorts of trouble.

    But it's still Summer and Winter is still coming as darkness grows among their numbers and looms in the distance. With wolves, dragons, lions, falcons and power-grabbing young knights and ladies their three year stint at Court will come to a head with problems.

    I rather enjoy the characterisation in this, there is no bashing, and the characters are interesting. My favorite so far is Jon Martell. And what happend to Jaime in this AU is a refreshing change.
     
  6. Odran

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    Why did Ned marry Catelyn? There was no pressure to do so. He'd done it in the first place, originally, because Robert, Jon Arryn and he needed Hoster Tully's support for the Rebellion. There's zero motivation for him to marry his brother's betrothed.

    Oh god, Daenerys/Arya... I'm not entirely sure whether it's disgusting or hilarious. Perhaps a bit of both. What's worse is how utterly horribly this whole thing is written, with a modern view on things rather than the setting-appropriate. I mean, Daenerys going "Imma tell King Rhaegar about you not letting me scissor-fuck your daughter, and he's gonna destroy your whole family!" is at least somewhat consistent with her madness in the canon books.

    How very eloquent of Rhaegar.

    ... this is more retarded than the usual Lyanna literary diarrhea I tend to see. I suppose congratulations are in order for achieving that at least.

    I just... this is an OC that happens to have the same first and last name as Lyanna Stark, right?

    All in all, the story is fucking awful, the plot is nonexistent, don't bother reading it unless you're really into the original cast getting replaced by OCs.
     
  7. Brukel

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    To be honest though that seems to sum up most of the fics in the fandom. The few that don't do that almost always involve either a Starkwank, bad shipping, or the totally original and "edgy" OC that the author made up.

    Cloudy posted a new one to by the way, Jon Snow is Jaime's bastard in this one.
    http://archiveofourown.org/works/1750385/chapters/3740027

    Basically the same deal as the one with Arrianne, but with Jon.
     
  8. Odran

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    Yeah, but this goes over the top. I mean, Tywin doesn't do shit about Cersei's bastard, doesn't prevent Jaime from being sent to the Wall, the match between Oberyn and Lyanna makes as much sense as would Stannis with Sansa, Robert marrying Lysa Tully is equally nonsensical.

    Wasn't Lyanna's main argument against marrying Robert that he would not keep to one bed, and here she is with a guy who already has numerous bastard children and will still keep having bastard children, despite having wed someone, but hey it's totally okay, because it's a Dornish culture thing, right?

    The author ought to be flayed.
     
  9. Captain Trips

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    Now for my atempt to defend my recomendation.


    I have no idea why the Author did this, maybe s/he was trying to mantain something of ASOIAF canon.


    I took it as Daenerys being a spoiled brat.

    Well it's Rhaegar...


    I suppose you are right.


    It's the authors inpretation of her, I think.

    Well, after reading through it more thoroughly instead of skimming it as I did the first time I read it. I can see what you mean with it being awful, I think it was more the idea behind the fic that made me recommend it. I also found another fault with it when reading it more criticaly, what the hell happend to Rickard Stark?

    Thanks Odran for opening my eyes a bit.
     
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  10. Brukel

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    Well I can see the Lysa thing making a lot of sense from Hoster's end, not so much Robert with his whole Lyanna is the love of my life deal, but then again I haven't read this fic, nor am I likely to do so, so i'm not sure what the reasoning is.
    Ned and Cat makes absolutely no sense if the events up until the rebellion didn't play out either.

    As far as Lyanna and Oberyn, I think authors look at Lyanna and Arya and go ohh wow, progressive Dorne and so on and assume it makes sense because Dorne defies the traditional role of women in westros and both of them rebel against it, blah, blah, blah. But that means ignoring the other aspect of say Lyanna who had issues with flaws that both Robert and Oberyn share. Hopefully that makes sense.

    Still i'm reluctant to say much on Lyanna's character when the books don't really give you too much to go on in the first place, especially what the real deal with her and Rhaegar was.
     
  11. Odran

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    I hope we never know. It's really for the best.

    I mean, on one hand she voiced her displeasure with Robert fucking around before his upcoming marriage, so if she went willingly with Rhaegar, that would make her an utter hypocrite as she went for a man already married and had no qualms about fucking him or what it would do to the other woman involved, Elia.

    Best case scenario, IMO, would be just leaving it unknown and whatever child she might have given birth to turned out to be stillborn.

    And despite having read more than my fair share of Jon-is-a-Targaryen fics, and even enjoyed some of them, I'd still prefer it if he was actually Ned's son, whether it was from a dalliance with Ashara or someone else.
     
  12. Brukel

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    Yeah but Ned flat out states (thinks) that sleeping around is something no one can lay at his door, so I don't think Jon being the son of Ned is very likely. Plus its not like it'll be the first time someone is revealed to be a hypocrite.
    It also seems like civil was was inevitable, if there's any substance to some of those theories that there was some kind of grand conspiracy among the Great Lord's.

    But who can say, maybe Bloodraven has been playing Bene Gesserit and he and the children have been conducting a kingdom wide breeding programme and Lyanna and Rhaegar got brain jacked.
     
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  13. Odran

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    They were looking to displace Aerys II from the throne, that's for sure. Whether they would have tried, at first, with a grand council, we'll have to ponder that.

    "I BEQUEATH TO YOU MY FEAR AND LONELINESS. TO YOU I GIVE THE CERTAINTY THAT THE BODY AND SOUL OF THE CITADEL WILL MEET THE SAME FATE AS ALL OTHER BODIES AND ALL OTHER SOULS."

    "WHAT IS SURVIVAL IF YOU DO NOT SURVIVE WHOLE? ASK THE UNSULLIED THAT! WHAT IF YOU NO LONGER HEAR THE MUSIC OF LIFE? MEMORIES ARE NOT ENOUGH UNLESS THEY CALL YOU TO NOBLE PURPOSE!"

    "WHY DID YOUR KINGDOM NOT BUILD THE SUMMER'S PATH? YOU KNEW THE NECESSITY. YOUR FAILURE CONDEMNED ME, THE NIGHT'S KING, TO MILLENNIUMS OF PERSONAL DESPAIR."
     
  14. Himuradono

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    There were few lulzy moments in this fic:
    "Uncle Obie" - shit, at first I thought I missed a tag where it said this was a SoA crossover and some dumb shit misspelled Opie. But no, Oberyn really has such a retarded diminutive. :fire

    Then we have the unique sword: Steel and pieces of obsidian with a weirwood handle. Coz if you don't rock a cool sword you are nobody in Westeros. The name of the sword is of course: Viper's Son. :facepalm

    Arya has a direwolf and keeps it in a desert climate wonders will never cease. I mean it's a miracle the poor animal didn't go mad from heat. Or just plain died, exposure to elements also means sun and extreme temperatures and with the kind of pelt direwolves were said to had...

    The fic treats itself way too seriously and it reads like a summer camp in interesting setting wish-fulfillment. It's so bad it's funny.
     
  15. Odran

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    Here, at least somewhat amusing fic that's Cersei-centric to wash away the foul taste of that last recommendation in the thread:

    Six Lives

    It's basically an AU with the premise of Cersei being born to six families that aren't Lannister. There's Martell, Arryn, Frey, Tyrell, Mormont and the last one has her as a wildling. Give it a read, it's not bad at all.
     
  16. Himuradono

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    Not bad at all. I think I like the Martell and Frey ones the best.
     
  17. Sn0rkack

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    It's not bad, but I wish there was more. Much more.
     
  18. Eyron

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    The second one sounds really really interesting. Why not publish one chapter at a time, with us helping you edit and giving suggestions ?

    Your English seems better than native speakers lol. You type precisely.
     
  19. MattSilver

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    So I've recently enjoyed the shit out of a prequel-y oneshot and its sequel, so thought I may as well share. This first one follows Ned during the start of the Rebellion (Just after his brother and father die) and then the sequel starts at the end (Post Tower Of Joy). Now, I don't have much room in my heart for Rebellion-era stuff unless it has AU divergences involved, but for these two I'd make an exception.

    They're well written 'n stuff and feel very canonish, especially with the depiction of Ned's little adventure to the Three Sisters we hear from one of Davos's chapters in ADwD, but fair warning, they're both angsty as fuck. It's teenage Ned brooding on the fact he can't be with Ashara and that Lyanna's missing and his family's dead so he must become the Lord of Winterfell et cetera. The usual, but it's delicious in its angstiness, so that's why I like it. I'm also a sucker for Ned/Ashara having actually happened and I love the portrayal of it here, the wistfulness and yearning and how it turns to the angsty introspective self-loathing. It's great!

    So yeah. Definitely makes me wanna write that fic idea of mine where Ned survives AGoT and then ends up meeting Ashara again 'cause she faked her death to protect Young Griff and pose as Septa Lamore... The angst and misery, people. It'd be glorious.
     
  20. Odran

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    I liked it better when there was only the first story (Shore to Shore).

    The second one once more puts out the tedious drivel that is Lyanna/Rhaegar and that is something I utterly loathe in the ASOIAF fandom.

    Also, just noticed the newest tag for the thread. Whoever put it there, thanks for the laugh.
     
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