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Pet Peeves v.9

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dark Syaoran, Jan 10, 2015.

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  1. Hero of Stupidity

    Hero of Stupidity Villain of Sensibility ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I think he meant, that there doesn't seem to be any magical pre-school so the conclusion is that Molly taught her children before Hogwarts. Or something like this.
     
  2. Halt

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    Just realized this today after looking for some new YA novels to read:

    Fearless Protagonists. Not to say I like it any better when they're cowards, but a person that isn't even a bit afraid during life-or-death situations is just inhuman.
     
  3. Wildfeather

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    Well, Arthur sure isn't going to do it. Can you imagine a scene where Arthur has to explain to his daughter why she bleeds for a few days once a month? I think there's a general social trend that we usually prefer to have things explained explicitly to girls, but guys just kind of "figure things out" by themselves and with their social peers (which is why Arthur/Molly might not say anything to Ron, but would say something to Ginny about sexual maturation).

    I agree with the "no dating, they're 11 people!" sure, they (may) not be having sex, but at that age at least SOME people would probably be interested in kissing and holding hands, even in the 90's in England.
     
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    I don't think that is what he meant. You generally don't refer to 'the talk' as tutoring. He clearly singled out Ginny as getting tutoring too.
     
  5. golan

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    Smells of the usual Molly-bashing as in Molly manipulating her daughter to get Harry, so that e.g. her family might have access to the Potter vaults (or just for the evulz, it's not that bashing fics are usually showing the villains to have something like credible motives for turning evil).
     
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    That's what I figured.
     
  7. Warlocke

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    I marvel at the number of comments like these that I see on DLP. Who are these people who didn't function below the waist until they were old enough to drive? Were they suffering from a condition?

    I don't know if they've forgotten what childhood was like, or what. :confused:

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    "Sue" Li: Who the fuck is this character, because I've never heard of her. I have, however, heard of Su Li; she was an unused character who appeared on the infamous class list.
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    When authors have characters referring to Draco as "Dracy" either as a taunt or a term of endearment. I'm sure they mean for it to be pronounced "Drake-y," since Draco has a long A and a hard C in it, but the word looks like it should rhyme with Tracy.

    I guess maybe they want to get to the "Drakey" sound while still changing as few letters from his actual name as possible, but it just looks stupid.

    Look, not only is "drake" the correct phonetic spelling, but it has been used as a word for (a type of) dragon in many forms of media: If you have to do the taunt/pet name thing at all, just use "Drakey."
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    Cerebus/Cerberus - Sooo many people make this mistake: A fact which boggles my mind. I even saw some hapless contestant fuck it up on Jeopardy! once.

    Cerebus is a (as far as I know) rather obscure comic character (and also an aardvark) who, I imagine, is only known to most people via a brief crossover with the Mirage TMNT comics, back in the day.

    It makes me think that, for most people, it's not a confusion between the names, but merely a spelling error. Still, wow, if that's the case then it's a lot of people consistently making the same strange error.
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    Glomped - I so hate this fucking non-word. Look, when I first started seeing this term, it was only on the internet (and still is), and only saw self-confessed furries using it... now it's everywhere.

    It's. Not. A. Word.

    It doesn't even offivially qualify as onomotapoia.

    If you have to describe someone leaping onto someone else like some hyperactive tween girl (which, incidentally, is what you come off as when using this asinine non-word), use a real word, the word from which 'glomped' was probably bastardized: Glommed.
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    Hermione correcting someone on a sentence like "Malfoy hates Harry and me." telling them, "It's 'Harry and I,' Ron."

    No. No, it fucking isn't! If you remove the other person and the conjunction ("Harry and," in this case) from that sentence, it should still make sense. Hmm...

    "Malfoy hates I." Does that look like it makes an ounce of fuckin' sense? No, it's "Malfoy hates me."

    It's the classic pitfall of the author trying to write for a character that is supposed to be smarter and more clever than those around them, but failing at the portrayal because said author just isn't smart/learned enough to pull it off.

    Same thing with trying to portray a character who's supposed to be funny, when the author isn't, or charming and suave, when the writer is... well, your average fan fiction enthusiast.

    This happens in D&D, too, with people trying to roleplay a character with more personal charm, wisdom, or raw intelligence than they, themselves, actually possess. However, at least in D&D, the dice and a good DM can mitigate the player's shortcomings, to some extent.

    "Well, Bob, you're dumb as a sack of hair... Thankfully, Cinnevar, the half-elf rogue you're playing, has an INT of 18; so, Roll a d20 to see if he figured out the riddle."

    I guess a good beta is the fan fic version of built-in ability scores and a competent dungeon master.
     
  8. golan

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    Sue Li is right.
    Calling a word "not a word" is stupid and self-contradictory. Ultimately, all words were had their very humble origin in some grunts somewhere. A word doesn't and can't stop being a word, just because some people don't like it because of it's etymology.
     
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    Are you sure?
    Never go to the HP wikia first. Ever.

    That might have sounded more impressive if you hadn't lead with the wikia link.

    There's formal speech and informal speech: People should know when and where to use them. "Glomped" has as much place in a story that wants to be taken even halfway seriously as sweat-dropping, gratuitous face-palming, and "I suck at summaries." Any attempt to say otherwise boils down to a deliberate attempt to be obtuse.

    Besides, anyone can make up something and call it a word, just like a three-year-old can beat a garbage can with a wiffle bat and say, "Mommy, I'm making music!" :facepalm
    That doesn't mean a serious audience is going to sit down and listen to it.
     
  10. golan

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    What makes the Harry Potter Wikia less reliable than "hp-lexicon.org"?
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    You looking for formal speech in fanfic description?:facepalm
    If you go back far enough, all words are made up. No exception at all. Some words are just considered to be informal due to them being new or originating in some kind of so-called "sub-culture".
     
  11. Andrela

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    Did you just use the HP wiki as a way to prove something?

    Heh. I guess you're one of those people who accept Bombarda as a canon spell.
     
  12. golan

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    Only if the sources given in an article check out (in the case of Su(e) Li, both lexica base their spelling on conflicting sources from Pottermore, which means, that both spelling are equally right and wrong).
    Nope. I also regard the films as a mortal insult to the books, which has to be avenged with a well-placed Crucio.
     
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    Entirely correct.

    Well then, it appears I was unjustified in judging you.
     
  14. golan

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    np :nyan: :nyan:
     
  15. Steelbadger

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    Gratuitous overuse of the one word sentence, "Point."

    I've read fics were no-one ever says, "You may have a point." or, "I'll give you that one." or even, "Good point." No. Every time the conversation goes as follows.

    "But Harry, a Dildo Dinosaur would be completely impossible to repel. Voldemort's anus would have no hope of resisting!"

    "Point."

    Now I can almost overlook it when it's a kid that says it, assuming the kid is modern and has been heavily Americanised by TV and such. I cannot overlook it when an adult, or worse a teacher, responds to some argument with "Point."

    I've seen this from the mouths of Snape, McGonagall and Dumbledore. That is utterly unforgivable. Hell, the reason I'm posting this now is because I saw it spill from the mouth of Admiral Hackett. No. Just, no.

    It has one use and one use only. Comic effect in an American sitcom.
     
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    Word*


    * translation: Yes, language evolves. Within dialog you can get away with leveraging the latest mutants (though one may hope that your selection of aberrant glot traffic is at least contemporaneous with the era of the setting). In the prose, however, we expect that you'll use words with a more universal pedigree.
     
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    Since we're here… Is "hols" something else than absolutely informal word for holidays used by teens?

    Because I've seen it used during narration, and it always absolutely breaks my immersion.
     
  18. golan

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    Except when the story demands, that people talk like people actually talk?
     
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    I've never heard it used by anyone in real life.
     
  20. BTT

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    That made me think of a stereotypical Newcastle Harry, for some reason.
     
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