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Pet Peeves v.9

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dark Syaoran, Jan 10, 2015.

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  1. Peter North

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    Presumably taking poly-juice in that fic doesn't just change you superficially. Although I don't think it was ever fully explained in canon whether you changed into the person entirely.
     
  2. Odran

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    Honestly can't remember anything other than the general outline. I think they even drop out of Hogwarts, Harry finds a job to support his 'family', there's probably Ron bashing somewhere in there as well. If you really want to know the details, here, I found it by Googling: Time Alone With Herself.

    Now, to get back on topic, I absolutely hate how so many fics which end up having a Harry/Hermione pairing tend to bash the shit out of Ron, for no particular reason, or how they portray him as near imbecilic, worse than either Crabbe or Goyle. It's probably just one of the many reasons why I'm not a fan of Hermione, as other characters get bashed all too readily so she'd be elevated in their stead.
     
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  3. Steelbadger

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    Well obviously she Polyjuiced into a guy (assuming Harry) and quite literally fucked herself using the Timeturner, the wonders of magic.

    No abortions ever would probably be a peeve if fem pregnancy wasn't already so rare. Seriously, I'm betting there's 10x more butthole pregnancy than actual proper physically possible pregnancies.
     
  4. Corvus Black

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    Fuck that, I am staying as far away as possible from that shit.
     
  5. A.K.$J6-J5

    A.K.$J6-J5 Seventh Year

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    ^no thumbs up to give
     
  6. Warlocke

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    Well, it definitely gives you the external anatomy, otherwise Harry wouldn't care that all those people using Polyjuice to look like him, at the beginning of Deathly Hallows, were stripping in front of each other, without hesitation.

    I can't see Hermione casually stripping in front of Mundungus Fletcher, Remus, et al., otherwise.

    Emphasis mine.

    And, we know it changes bone structure, otherwise your face would look like... your face, but with someone else's skin on it, and your height wouldn't change, and Barty Crouch Jr. would have had leg bones protruding from his stump when we was masquerading as Moody.

    And, one would assume it would be a bad thing if, say, a child used Polyjuice to become an adult, and suddenly they had the heart of an eleven-year-old girl trying to pump blood through the body of a six-foot-tall adult male? How about the reverse? I'm no doctor, but that sounds like something that could have potentially lethal consequences.

    Bearing that in mind, one can reasonably assume the potion also reshapes internal organs.

    Anatomy-wise, that just leaves the question of whether the potion can give you parts your gender lacks. Well, the issue of the potion doing exactly this with external anatomy having already been addressed, we'll address the internal: Again, I'm no doctor, but the male and female anatomies have analogous parts, so the real question is actually, "Can it change internal organs to their analogous, opposite gender, counterparts just as it does with the external ones?" It wouldn't be an incredible stretch to think it does.

    So, on the related subject of being impregnated by someone on Polyjuice, that leaves the final question: Does the potion actually temporarily alter your DNA, or does it merely change your shape. I don't believe canon offers us anything upon which to base an answer. If it's the latter, it would be like kneading a piece of clay: You can reshape it into a princess-cut diamond, but it's not going to actually become a diamond.

    So (in a scenario where Hermione, is using a time turner and has polyjuiced into Harry), if the potion changes your DNA, the resulting child would genetically be Harry+Hermione. If all it does is change your anatomy, then the child would be Hermione+Hermione... and possibly horribly riddled with defects, depending on what kind of recessive genes are involved.

    A slight tangent: I seem to recall a story where a girl was concerned that if she used polyjuice to become a guy, then ejaculated whilst transformed, that she'd essentially be jettisoning all her (transformed) eggs, and be rendered barren when she returned to her female form.

    Well, that's certainly an... imaginative problem to have envisioned. But, if such a thing were even possible, I would think the solution is obvious: Brew enough polyjuice to spend a day as a man, whose body will produce more sperm, as men do, and then when she returns to her original form again, the egg problem is solved. If polyjuice converts eggs to sperm in the first place, it follows that the reverse is true.

    Fuckin' hell, fic writers, the thoughts you force me to think. :fire

    Peeve: The continued existence of "X reads the Harry Potter books" fics.

    It's 2015, why is "Ginerva"[sic] still a thing?
     
  7. Download

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    Because Ginevra is her canon name.

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    As other people said, she polyjuiced herself as Harry, and using the time turner had sex with herself.

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    I remember reading the story a while back and thought it was hilarious.
     
  8. Nuit

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    Note the spelling.
     
  9. Ghosthree3

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    She knocked herself up while she was Harry. Fic is on adultfanfiction somewhere.

    EDIT: Oops, that was last page and has been answered. Ignore.
     
  10. golan

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    Yeah, one reason only: it'll break the story (besides problems with privacy, self-incrimination and that no-one wants to out his life on the line to ensure the truthful testimony of some punk).

    Were talking about magical Unbreakable Oaths, not some court formalities in RL with some religious fluff added to make it sound cooler (AFAIK in most countries of today you can leave out the "so help me god" and everything is still kosher).
     
  11. Joe's Nemesis

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    Nope,

    Once again, I was just stating that the concept of losing life because of a broken vow/oath is very common in Western history, and little to no moral issues surround it.

    But what we're talking about now is really just a single thread in a much larger fabric of truths, likes, and the spoken word, where at one time it was believed a spoken word itself became an entity on its own. But yeah, this isn't the place for that discussion.

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    Um, you do realize that calling it "religious fluff" is arrogant as hell, right? Not only to those who might believe it today, but in what C.S. Lewis called Chronological Snobbery.
     
  12. golan

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    Notify the Inquisition (not the Spanish, cause it wouldn't be unexpected anymore :D) than.
     
  13. Rhaegar I

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    Dear God, can we please move on from the Unbreakable Vow stuff. If you guys really want to continue the discussion, make it into a separate thread.

    And to help move things along: goblins will immediately swear their undying loyalty and devotion to the first person who can remember a goblin's name and act polite. Just once, I want to read a Fic where the goblins are properly fleshed out into something more Klingons: an honourable warlike people who don't trust easily, but if you earn their trust you really earn it.
     
  14. crimson sun06

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    You're complicating things more than they need to be. For a minute let's ignore history and stick to the present more practical times. To euphemise, this is what using the equivalence of an unbreakable vow for testimonies might look like in the real world.

    It will be like having your brain hooked up to an MRI machine which can tell when you're lying with an IV ready to pump a lethal poison into your bloodstream the moment it is discovered that you're in fact.... lying.

    If you go back to the wizarding world from where our debate stems... are you surprised why they are not used as tools in their judiciary?
     
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  15. Joe's Nemesis

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnF1OtP2Svk

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    No, there's a ton more than that, including the morality of lying in court which invalidates Justice, especially when someone else is seeking it for righting "wrong."

    But Rhaeg. is right, if we want to continue this, let's move it to a different thread.
     
  16. Corvus Black

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    Page 11 of this thread, post 216 onwards discusses Goblins.
     
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    THIS MEANS THAT SOMEONE IS TALKING LOUDLY AND IS POSSIBLY VERY ANGRY. THE AUTHOR IS INFORMING US THAT THIS IS THE CASE AND WE SHOULD RECOGNISE WHAT IS GOING ON SO WE CAN BETTER PICTURE WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR HEADS.
     
  19. James

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    (A/N: OR IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AUTHOR'S NOTE.)
     
  20. Gengar

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    I dunno how often this happens to others.

    I left a review on a DxD crossover fic that pretty much said the characters (and thus the story) was ruined for me, and why.

    The author inexplicably took a sledgehammer to an intimate moment/ relationship by having them talk of the sad inevitability of this lovely, monogamous relationship turning into a harem. You know, because they can't let the line die out or whatever. His heart and his capacity for love are big enough, Rias can be the 'harem manager' (verbatem. Like a fucking retarded football manager. We need a Tsundere for balance!), I'll still love you the most etc. All the usual garbage.

    That's not actually the peeve I'm highlighting (this time. It's very obviously a peeve). A few days after I left that review and dumped the story, I get a pages long PM by someone who's not the author defending 'harems', why they're necessary and, well, I'm not sure what else. I got a paragraph in, realised it wasn't the author and just binned it.

    Tl;dr lurkers defending authors they like by responding to reviews not meant for them.
     
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