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Pet Peeves v.9

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dark Syaoran, Jan 10, 2015.

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  1. Rhaegar I

    Rhaegar I Death Eater

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    Personally, I don't see a reason why Harry should be rich. I'm not saying I hate the idea, but I find it pointless in most Fics (with the exception of that one HP/Deadpool Crossover, of course, where Harry ends up stupid rich thanks to increasingly hilarious schemes).

    With that said, I should probably point out that Ron Weasley, one of my favourite HP characters, explicitly comes from a poor family. Coincidence?
     
  2. capo327

    capo327 Sixth Year

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    Two words. Lopsided grin.
     
  3. Odran

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    Once or twice it being mentioned isn't a big deal, the problem starts when the only way Harry knows how to smile is lopsidedly.
     
  4. Ghosthree3

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    Maybe he has a face deformation. You guys should leave him alone.
     
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    Well it was a stroke of luck, that he survived.
     
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    The law should be taken under advisement by more writers.
     
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    Lilly the pure blood and Lilly the adopted have fast become a peeve of mine, or the converse with Petunia. This usually coincides with a new bloodline for Harry also peeves me quite a bit.
     
  11. Nuit

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    I see my peeve more often than I'd like. :(
     
  12. capo327

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    Lilly is the new Hermoine. At least it doesn't change the pronunciation completely, I guess.
     
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  14. Eryr_Gwyn_Fanfic

    Eryr_Gwyn_Fanfic First Year

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    The Hermione <3's Rules & Authority Figures cliche needs to die.

    There is no evidence for this despite the fangasms that occur every time Hermione points out that a specific action will break a rule. There is an enormous difference between being aware of an action's consequences and steadfastly avoiding rulebreaking. Let's take a look at some of Hermione's accomplishments:

    • Set Snape on fire
    • Broke curfew to stop Quirrellmort
    • Coaxed Harry & Ron into brewing Polyjuice Potion
    • Stole the ingredients herself by ruining another student's potion to cause a distraction
    • Was on her way to tell Harry - not the faculty - about the basilisk traveling via pipes
    • Assaults Snape in the Shrieking Shack
    • Helps Harry with TWT preparation which may or may not have been against the spirit/rules of the competition
    • Silencing a member of the fourth estate who was critical of her friend
    • Organizing a militia to combat a hyperbolically cruel, but lawfully appointed Headmistress
    • Tricking Umbridge into getting attacked by Centaurs, which could be considered a coup of sorts
    • Jinxing a competitor for her boyfriend's position on the house Quidditch team
    Harry hated Snape for good reason, but he was never as brutal as his best female friend. If the girl were a Muggle, she'd practically be an anarchist. And yet, she's often portrayed in fanfics as someone who loathes to break even the most nonsensical rule. It sucks all of the agency out of her character and just makes her boring.
     
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  15. Goten Askil

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    ->He himself had half the clues necessary to convince anyone else (the voice in his head). And how do you know who she was going to see? I don't remember anything about that.

    ->With McGonagall's approval and after Hagrid cheated, so not really relevant here.

    ->You mean the practical study group who never did anything against Umbridge? She proposed the DA before it was illegal (but agreed to continue afterwards, you're right) to a)pass the OWLs and b)prepare to fight Voldemort. Combatting Umbridge never had anything to do with that, and the DA stopped meeting when she was appointed Headmistress.

    ->Sorry, what? Aren't you confusing Hermione and Harry? Even the wiki doesn't dare to pretend she cast an Unforgivable.

    And since you're listing, you're forgetting that:
    • She deemed being expelled worse than dying (even though she was 12 and she didn't probably think it).
    • She said that hand-written instructions were dangerous because they weren't approved by the ministry (well she was jealous and profoundly stupid in HBP, so she probably said the first shit going through her head).
    • She talked to a teacher rather than to her best friend about the potential danger of his Christmas present (which I honestly cannot find any justification for).

    It's true that fanfiction bashing writers have a tendancy to forget characters' good points and to exagerate the bad ones, but that's no reason to do the opposite. Her values are more important to her than rules, it doesn't mean that rules are meaningless either.
    AFAIK, you don't find many anarchists joining their government after graduation.
     
  16. crimson sun06

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    They didn't stop meeting because Umbridge was appointed headmistress. They stopped DA 'cause they got caught.

    No justification? Are you sure about that? At that time it was believed Sirius was out to kill Harry. Considering they didn't know who sent the broom her reaction was totally justified even if it meant antagonizing her best friends.
     
  17. Psychotic Cat

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    Especially considering it would not have been the first time someone tried to kill Harry by fucking with his broom so he fell to his death.
     
  18. NuScorpii

    NuScorpii Professor

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    Like you said, she was 12 and she didn't think it. I don't know why people take this so seriously.

    She was right, wasn't she. Those instructions were dangerous, almost causing a death. If you really think about it, how safe would it have been to use instructions supposedly written by a past student? You're focusing too much on the part about the ministry.


    She actually did speak to Harry about it, even though she got interrupted. That aside, if you think about it, she was right.
     
  19. Goten Askil

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    My bad, I only meant they actually never met while she was Headmistress, not that they disbanded because of her appointment.

    To clarify, I'm not saying that this brand of Hermione bashing has any real basis, just that it's easy to misinterpret her character if you don't think too much about it.
    Of course she's right about the broom, but she doesn't say why she thinks Harry shouldn't use it, she just says don't. Had she just said the words "Sirius Black could have sent it" before going to McGonagall, there would be no problem.
    About the Potions book, it's just that "ministry approved" seems strange after one year of Umbridge. She could have chosen a hundred other (and better) reasons not to trust that book, but she chose that one.

    tl;dr: Anyone who can read knows that she isn't as bent on rules as she is in some fics. It's just that the way she presents things can lead to misinterpretation.
     
  20. Eryr_Gwyn_Fanfic

    Eryr_Gwyn_Fanfic First Year

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    Goten Askil You're right. I was quoting an untrustworthy source (a reddit post). My mistake.

    If you reread the final portion of Chapter Eleven of PoA (The Firebolt), I think it's clear that JKR crafted the chapter in such a way to obscure Hermione's reasoning until the very end. While Hermione did end up being right, I'm not certain the ends justify the means. She attempted to get Harry to turn the broom in, but Ron talked him out of it. The final line of that Chapter is intended as a cliffhanger: "Professor McGonagall agrees that the broom was most likely sent by Sirius Black!" [paraphrased] I think in this case JKR used the build-up of having us guess the broom's sender to deliver a slight to Hermione's character. IMO the only reason to do this was to delay the knowledge of Lupin's lycanthropy until the end as by the time Hermione figured it out, Harry and Ron weren't speaking to her.

    That being said, I agree with you that she's certainly no saint and fics that whitewash her character flaws are as equally boring to read as the ones that bash her mercilessly.
     
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