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The Flash

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by Rahkesh Asmodaeus, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. BTT

    BTT Viol̀e͜n̛t͝ D̶e͡li͡g҉h̛t҉s̀ ~ Prestige ~

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    I loved that, in the scene in the club with Cold, 'Cold as ice' began playing.
    Just the right level of cheese.
     
  2. Corvus Black

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    Not sure how the timeline works either, at the point Oliver helped Barry against Wells he was still the heir to Ra's. What, did Ra's just let him leave Nanda Parbat for a while to help out his old friend?

    Also, Wells got curbstomped. It was actually kinda pathetic, Wells was like "3 on 1, easy" and then he just got completely trashed. The fight was a real let down on his part.
     
  3. Klackerz

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    I am pretty sure that everything is going according to Well's plan.
     
  4. Amoral Philosopher

    Amoral Philosopher Seventh Year

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    Ya, I got a feeling Wells wanted to be captured.
     
  5. IAmJustAnotherGuy

    IAmJustAnotherGuy Seventh Year

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    I am not going to go into the time traveling paradoxes that just happened but you gotta admit even then, The Flash just became the second best comic book tv show on air. Multiverse. Jay Garrick. Killer Frost. So much win for us fans.
     
  6. BTT

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    Couldn't Eddie just have gotten an (emergency, even if the thought makes me wince) vasectomy and erased Reverse Flash from existence that way?
     
  7. R. E. Lee

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    Yes, but sadly it will never topple the king that is Gotham.

    Seeing Dr. Stein again and being reminded of how wonderfully snarky has given me hope for Legends of Tomorrow. I did think they were going to kill off Ronnie, especially after they went and got him married. That would have explained his absence from the new show.
     
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    Really, Gotham?

    Also, I guess the electrocution or whatever happened to him today is making him unstable or something and he has to be absorbed by Dr. Stein, who is the more interesting person.

    But yeah, episode was solid until the end, hopefully, they give satisfying answers to many of the obvious flaws that are present as of now. Didn't really make much sense.
     
  9. Republic

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    If Thawne was erased, shouldn't Barry's mother also be alive and the present (who Eobad affected) also be affected?
     
  10. R. E. Lee

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    No, not really.

    I think that might have been what caused the giant singularity. The universe couldn't account for all the paradoxes.
     
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  11. redlibertyx

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    I'm pretty sure, in part, that's why there's a giant wormhole open above Central City? It certainly seems like a plausible explanation, anyway.

    Edit: This is what I get for leaving my tabs open for so long. Oops!
     
  12. Klackerz

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    Flash Vanishes in Crisis.

    Fucking Cliffhanger.
     
  13. Amoral Philosopher

    Amoral Philosopher Seventh Year

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    I have to admit, time travel is fucking confusing. I really do not understand why Barry let his mother die. The alternate timeline of the show was never supposed to exist in the first place. Barry's mom was never supposed to die. The creation of the alternate timeline of the tv show is all due to Eobard Thawne traveling back in time to fuck with the past. Barry did not travel back in time to prevent a murder that was supposed to happen, he was going back in time to save an innocent woman who was never supposed to have died to begin with. He wouldn't have been changing the past, he would have been preventing Thawne from changing the past. Hell, stopping Thawne from changing the past was actually the right thing to do, disregarding any personal motivations on Barry's part.

    Don't get me wrong. From the point of being able to continue the show, and not fuck over the Arrow tv show as well, the writers had to have Barry not change anything. However, from the point of what was portrayed as the morally correct choice, the writers really skewed the plot. Overall the plot just didn't hold up for me.
     
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    I think the point was that Barry wasn't willing to throw the life he lived up to now, along with the lives of everyone around him, out the window for a possible other life that he never knew. Accepting what he has over what could have been, as it were.
     
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    The fact that the other Barry (presumably from his future) told him to stop probably didn't hurt.
     
  16. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

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    Yeah, but the future Barry would have no additional information. He stopped himself from fixing the timeline, so he would have the same dilemma present Barry faced when deciding -- is the alternate timeline worth preserving, or should he change it to how it should have been?

    I didn't really enjoy that part. It felt like they half-assed it. Either travel back and save the mother, or don't. Don't travel back with all the inherent risks associated with it and wimp out at the very end. But I guess they had to make it happen like that if Thawn's death really did cause the wormhole to reappear and become unstable.
     
  17. IAmJustAnotherGuy

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    I am not so sure that not saving his mother would be wimping out, nor would it be completely brave. I see it as a more complex matter. You are actually playing with the fate of a universe because of the butterfly effect. And I thought the wormhole as a way the universe came up with to clean up the mess.

    Also, the producers said the wormhole would be a new way to introduce characters. I am hoping for Dr. Alchemist (already, I believe, confirmed to appear), and alternate timeline forms of Jay Garrick and/or PreNew52 Wally West. Any other characters you'd like to see?
     
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    No more superspeed characters. Please.
     
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    Mirror dude for sure.

    Anytime somebody uses time travel it gets goofy. But flash is the goofiest storyline in a world of goofy stories.
     
  20. redlibertyx

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    I'd love for Ralph and Sue Dibney to show up. Ralph would make an excellent addition to the police department, I think, and I always had a soft spot for the Dibneys. Given all the time travel Bart Allen/Impulse would be great too. There's a ton of really great Flash characters out there. I mean Solovar would be another great character since Grodd has already been introduced. Although I'd guess Gorilla City would have to be a part of the multiverse and not a hidden city like it is in the DCU.

    Has Mirror Master shown up yet? I don't think he has. Between him and Abra Kadabra I don't think there are any of the old Rogues that haven't shown up. The Top? I'm trying to think of the old Rogues and I'm drawing a blank. I do want a Pied Piper/Trickster team up.

    And everyone should want Paul Gambi to show up.