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Pet Peeves v.10

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dark Syaoran, Aug 13, 2015.

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  1. Hero of Stupidity

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    And Why Isn't harry the Lord of THE Ancien and nolbe House of Merlins balls?
     
  2. Steelbadger

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    Then there's the reviews that don't seem to match up at all with what they're reviewing:
    That was for a chapter with no cliffhanger at all. I r confuzzled.
     
  3. Rayndeon

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    Hadrian.

    I see that, I tend to stop reading. I'm alright with it as an alias, but please, not as Harry's actual name. More convoluted names on Harry's part makes me press "X" on the tab all that much faster.

    One of my biggest pet peeves besides bashing.
     
  4. AmerigoCorleone

    AmerigoCorleone Seventh Year

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    I actually don't mind "Hadrian," as long as it's only used to refer to him in formal situations.

    In my family, no one uses real names to address each other. Only nicknames or shortenings.
     
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    You mean formal situations like his Sorting at Hogwarts, or his trial ?
     
  6. Warlocke

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    Some people see "Hadrian" and they just hit a wall.

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    Maybe this is a UK English vs US English thing, but... People who refer to a fresh/recent/unhealed wound as a scar.

    A scar is a fibrous build-up of tissue that grew to seal a wound. Scars typically lack the sweat glands, hair, and such that normal flesh would have.

    Now, what are some people using "scar" to mean instead of that? Any (fresh and totally unhealed) abrasion, laceration, puncture...

    Here's a clue for those people: If the wound just happened, it's not a scar! Scars take time to form. When Harry was left on the doorstep of #4 Privet Drive, he did NOT have a lightning bolt scar, he had a lightning bolt wound that would later heal over and become a scar.

    If someone is slashed with a sword or knife, the resulting mark is not a scar, it is an incision. If they have a tear in the skin, it's a laceration. If someone is penetrated by an object, like an icepick, they have a puncture wound (or impalement, if it's really impressive). If a portion of someone's skin has been scoured away by harsh contact with a rough surface, they have an abrasion (or a friction burn, if the abrasion was caused by, hurrrrr, friction).

    A scar could be created by any of those wounds, once they have healed over, but before then, they are exactly what they are: Lacerations, punctures, abrasions, et cetera.

    Scar = any wound + time + healing.
    Scar ≠ a fresh wound of any kind.


    This is especially egregious when it is used to refer to a fresh wound on a corpse (presumably the fatal wound :sherlock::facepalm). If someone is stabbed in the heart and immediately drops dead, the mark left behind is not a fucking scar, it's a wound. A scar is the result of an injury that has healed but left a lasting mark. Now, you tell me, if a wound kills you within minutes, how could any substantial healing of said wound have taken place? It couldn't.

    A fresh wound might have marred the skin, but it has not scarred the skin.

    It's like looking at any given sick person and calling them a corpse: It's not just inaccurate in the extreme, it's also pretty damned insensitive if the object of your stupid comment is within earshot. :fire

    I don't know if it's the HP fandom being scar-happy or what, but this shit is annoying.
     
  7. Ghosthree3

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    I don't believe that's a language issue, I think that's just people not understanding what a scar is.
     
  8. PhenomV1

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    I agree with this. It's usually done as an attempt at making him seem more like a Pure-Blood. I guess Harry is to plebeian for an ancient house.
     
  9. Puzzled

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    I'm okay with different names if they use a True Name sort of mechanic and everyone calls him Harry. Actually reading Hadrian or whatever is a no go.
     
  10. Gengar

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    I think I'd genuinely laugh if someone wrote Harry's real name as Haralambos - Lily's parents are Greek or whatever.

    I dunno why. It just makes me giggle seeing it written in English and it'd be so out of left field and pointless that'd I'd love it.
     
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    My two cents on the issue of whether or not to lengthen Harry's name is that it depends on the parents. Some parents will not give their kids nicknames as first names. My mom was one of those people- they were hoping for a boy, and my dad like the name Danny Lee (after a couple of cousins) but my mom would have made the full name Daniel Lee just because she didn't want her kid to have to use the nickname. So yes, I do tend to give characters names that can be shortened as their official names and then use the shortened names.

    On the Hadrian end of things, do I like the name? Yes, I think it sounds nice. Do I think Lily would have named her child that name? No, not really. So I tend to go for Harrison, which I like just a tad better than Hadrian.

    I suppose it's just partly a cultural thing. But my biggest peeve on the names is when they are ridiculously long. I do not want to have to read Hadrian James Auralon Richard Britannien Potter-Black-Gryffindor-Slytherin-Merlin or any of its ilk, like, ever. Any time they write in an official document? Slap the full name in! Any time they are being polite? Better remember the full name! It is very annoying. (I find that people who write fics with names of that ilk have also, sometime, written Albus Too-many-names Dumbledore, or something similar, before)
     
  12. Atram Noctem

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    Harrison is even worse than Hadrian imo. It just brings images of Han Solo to mind.

    If anything, the "official" version of Harry is Henry, which was his great-grandfather.

    Anyway, I wouldn't care if Harry would insist that people use his official name or whatever, if it was written by a self-aware author, by which I mean that authors usually do this trick in order to give Harry a more elitist image, seemingly unaware that they fall directly into the path of Tom Riddle, who hated his commoner name and created an elitist, grandiose moniker instead. So, if an author would play the name-change as vanity and haughtiness on Harry's part, who wishes to part with his common upbringing and integrate himself into wizarding culture, that would be interesting, because it would actually present Harry as a flawed human being much like Riddle. Instead, the authors just paint it as an innocent action of Harry's, probably unconscious of their own wish to push Harry into this image.
     
  13. Peter North

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    Rowling named him Harry. Calling him anything else is ridiculous when I see Harry being referred to as anything else make me want to bash my head in.
    Now as for time travel fics lets be honest. Harry is a common enough name that really the only thing that would get peoples attention is if you used your father's surname or your mother' surname. That's only if your parents' surnames where uncommon. Common surnames like Smith for example or Gagnon which is a name not from HP would be enough that no one would ever know or be suspicious of who hell you were.
    As for living with his counterpart I can only really see a change in surname anyway in order not to be suspicious.
    Please don't rename Harry I really feel it detracts form a HP fic. Because if your reading it it's probably because your looking for that name anyway.
     
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    The next time I write Harry taking a cover identity, it'll be Habsburg Brambleditch. "But, please, just call me Harry."
     
  15. Peter North

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    Harry is afraid he'll be discoverd so he decides to use the his alias: Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert Irvim John Kenneth Loyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor Willian Xerxes Yancy Zeus.
    But please just call him Harry.

    Speaking of peeves. The use of the full name when telling someone off, especially from Hermione.
    Harry Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert Irvim John Kenneth Loyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor Willian Xerxes Yancy Zeus, why did you pull down Umbridge's dress?!

    Harry: Umm because i thought I'd get her back for making me carving words into my hand?
     
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  16. salts

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    It's because Hadrian Potter-Black is one step away from Idi Amin.

    But you know: Just Magical Britain in particular.
     
  17. Gengar

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    Adolph; not really a popular name after the forties. Surprising.

    I'm okay with Harriet, but only when that's the name of Harry's AU counterpart OTP.
     
  18. Hero of Stupidity

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    Don't you mean Fellatic Cambernatch?
     
  19. Peter North

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    Hugplx actually Adolf isn't that uncommon in Germany. It is kind of like having a mass murder in USA called Bob. Sad but true.
     
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    Stephen Fry disagrees with you. Don't you dare ever contradict QI in my presence again.
     
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