1. DLP Flash Christmas Competition + Writing Marathon 2024!

    Competition topic: Magical New Year!

    Marathon goal? Crank out words!

    Check the marathon thread or competition thread for details.

    Dismiss Notice
  2. Hi there, Guest

    Only registered users can really experience what DLP has to offer. Many forums are only accessible if you have an account. Why don't you register?
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Introducing for your Perusing Pleasure

    New Thread Thursday
    +
    Shit Post Sunday

    READ ME
    Dismiss Notice

Complete A Cadmean Victory by DarknessEnthroned - M

Discussion in 'Almost Recommended' started by Skeletaure, Aug 20, 2015.

  1. Ghosthree3

    Ghosthree3 Unspeakable DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2012
    Messages:
    775
    Location:
    Australia
    I hadn't really thought about it this way but that definitely does come under loss. I focussed too much on what he's gained that I ignored what he would have had had none of this happened.
     
  2. ademolix

    ademolix Squib

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2015
    Messages:
    7
    What you said makes sense, but with it said, I feel that while Harry has lost much; his old friends, Salazar's painting, he still has gained much, such as: his relationship with Fleur, better ties with Sirius, his godfather, one of his father figures, his friendship with Katie.

    So, in a way, he hasn't really lost yet, its all been balanced out.

    Just my own two cents.
     
  3. Ashton Knight

    Ashton Knight Disappeared DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2015
    Messages:
    270
    Location:
    UK
    High Score:
    0
    You can't really balance out loss. That's like saying if you're parents died but then you get adopted or something then you're loss is balanced out. Loss is more complex than that.
     
  4. silverlasso

    silverlasso Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2007
    Messages:
    1,302
    Location:
    San Francisco
    This story is such a letdown. Somehow I made it through all the chapters but it felt like I was dying inside with every new chapter. Most of the characters really don't feel alive and Harry seems really bipolar.

    Also has magic not advanced in the past 1000 years? Salazar's portrait knowing all this modern information was actually really annoying.
     
  5. Ghosthree3

    Ghosthree3 Unspeakable DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2012
    Messages:
    775
    Location:
    Australia
    Well clearly it wasn't modern.
     
  6. Rakkety Tam

    Rakkety Tam High Inquisitor

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2011
    Messages:
    513
    It really is a huge letdown. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I felt like I was dying, but the story is incredibly disappointing. My problem with it is that I'm sure the author could be making this story much better but isn't. There are some really interesting aspects of the story that are somewhat original but they are just handled so poorly.
     
  7. Anarchy

    Anarchy Half-Blood Prince DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2009
    Messages:
    3,679
    Location:
    NJ
    See, I don't think this story is a letdown. Being a letdown would imply this story was good at some point in time, and it just wasn't. It was okay sometimes, but for the vast majority of the time, it was firmly meh.
     
  8. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2006
    Messages:
    2,819
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    High Score:
    13,152
    On the topic of the title, I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that it could be a potential reference to Cadmus Peverell rather than the phrase "Cadmean Victory". I mean, that's what I had been assuming the primary reference was from the start.
     
  9. noura62442

    noura62442 First Year

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26
    Cadmus Peverell was the brother with the resurrection stone right? If it does refer to that, that would actually be pretty interesting.
     
  10. gokieks

    gokieks First Year

    Joined:
    May 31, 2015
    Messages:
    49
    I'd forgotten the names of the (non-Ignotus) Peverell brothers, and together with the title literally being "Cadmean Victory" meant that had truly never occurred to me. That does make it very interesting, especially with Harry's vow to bring Salazar back after sealing the Chamber - he actually says/thinks "I have the stone".
     
  11. Dicra

    Dicra Groundskeeper

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2014
    Messages:
    352
    But why did the author explain the difference between "Cadmean Victory" and "Pyrrhic Victory" at the beginning of one chapter, if that was the case?

    To spread confusion?
     
  12. vlad

    vlad Banned ~ Prestige ~

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2007
    Messages:
    678
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Georgia, SSR
    High Score:
    2000
    Taure, I swear one day there will be some obscure element of Canon that you will get completely wrong. I SWEAR IT.
     
  13. Ghosthree3

    Ghosthree3 Unspeakable DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2012
    Messages:
    775
    Location:
    Australia
    To be honest, I think the last chapter might be pushing it a little in terms of Harry and Fleur's personalities. Especially Fleur's.

    Killing the house elf seemed really out of place even for this Harry. And Theo's death seemed to occur for no reason other than to let Fleur kill somebody to prove she was 'equal' to Harry.
    I think it was handled poorly and I hope the author backtracks a little on it. Fleur more so, but Harry could benefit from it too. This chapter more than any other made them both feel a little too shellish.
     
  14. KrzaQ

    KrzaQ Denarii Host DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    1,404
    Location:
    Poland
    I liked it. I don't see why Harry would kill Theodore before Nott Sr., as it was pointlessly cruel, but other than that all their actions were pragmatic, if a little ruthless.
     
  15. vlad

    vlad Banned ~ Prestige ~

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2007
    Messages:
    678
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Georgia, SSR
    High Score:
    2000
    Yeah, last chapter was fine. Maybe a little overly dramatic, but there was a very logical reason to kill Theo and the elf.
     
  16. Ghosthree3

    Ghosthree3 Unspeakable DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2012
    Messages:
    775
    Location:
    Australia
    I'm not saying it didn't make sense. It made perfect sense and I have no issue with them doing it. My problem is more about the complete lack of caring. I get them believing it was the right choice and agree. But this whole empty inside thing feels out of place to me. Unless it's actually a plot point the author is trying to use to show how Harry is becoming more and more like Voldemort. Otherwise though, it's pretty poor.
     
  17. KrzaQ

    KrzaQ Denarii Host DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    1,404
    Location:
    Poland
    They probably are keeping a tight leash on their emotions during the operation. I'd wait and see how they cope once at home.
     
  18. TallDarkStranger

    TallDarkStranger Fourth Year

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2015
    Messages:
    131
    Location:
    Neverland
    High Score:
    0
    I think I get it now.

    Harry and Fleur are getting closer and closer, in terms of personality, to the psychopath they are trying to kill.

    The death of Theo Nott was essential, but cold blooded. Losing themselves in the process of beating LV and becoming something nearly as monstrous?

    ---------- Post automerged at 07:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:21 PM ----------

    Nice catch, I'd say it's a general idea of bringing back what you had to lose at the end. And the resurrection stone is a conduit for that.

    ---------- Post automerged at 07:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:26 PM ----------

    Nice catch, I'd say it's a general idea of bringing back what you had to lose at the end. And the resurrection stone is a conduit for that.
     
  19. Slindish

    Slindish Squib

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2015
    Messages:
    7
    Location:
    Australia
    High Score:
    0
    I find myself less and less interested in this story - and it wasn't particularly captivating at the beginning. It feels like a darker, better written, His Angel by durararaaa.

    Hermione is the foil to Harry, and then essentially just written out of the story. It has the classic Independent!Trained!Harry fic feel, apparently Harry just has to read a few books to completely surpass Hermione in all aspects of Magic. Rituals with basically no downside at all just to boost his magical core.

    I did enjoy the interactions between Harry and Fleur at the start, but recently it's kind of gotten a bit bland. I think the chemistry between Harry and Katie is far more interesting.

    I think Bill Weasley is a bit of a red herring at the moment. At least I hope it is, I'm already close to dropping this fic without a romcom-esque misunderstanding just for a bit of drama.

    All that being said, it was a fairly fun read throughout the 4th and 5th year sections. I powered through it in a couple of days a week or so ago. Worth a read if you've got space in your to-read list and like the genre. Nothing groundbreaking.

    3/5
     
  20. LightDethroned

    LightDethroned Muggle

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Messages:
    4
    Location:
    UK
    High Score:
    0
    I personally wouldn't expect conventional chemistry or romance from two rather damaged individuals. I'd imagine any relationship they had would be warped by their own personality disorders and flaws.

    It's too late in the day for a story like this to wow anyone, especially not our jaded community. Some parts are original, some parts too cliché, and it could definitely use a serious edit.

    In case anyone is curious I'd give it a 3.5 as it is. It's been written lazily, but it's not terrible.
     
Loading...