46 minutes left. Can you just give me the cliff notes of it? Like okay, tom and Jan ping you for claiming mindmelding, that's chill. What else? Does that make them both scummy, or just one?

Restate your case for me briefly. It's not because I'm too lazy to find the post, there's a reason.

 

Why the fuck would you think newcomb is almost always town and slippery is hard scum?
Explain how that makes sense for any somewhat reasonable person?!

He basically throws away his chance at winning with that move.. if he does something like that he does it tomorrow or even later .. hopes the judge is dead and self lives or anything like that.

 

miner11121 Construct a world where we are both Citizens. Newcomb is your top town so Vira is a confirmed dead witch. Who are the two living witches then ?

 

mal, have you given a wall recently? I want to make sure we have a clear view on where the towniest towns are in case of nk.

 

You guys saying slippery actions here are scummy are saying how are they ever town?

But I am asking you - explain to me how they are ever scummy?
What is motivation?
Why put himself out there today and not just wait longer?

Miner was almost always the lynch today if he doesn't pull that stunt.

There is no fucking reason for that move outside a longshot in judging my reactions in a vira/newcomb/slippery world where they are trying to activate last stand while newcomb has 2 lives.
That is the only world and even in that world they can just lynch miner first and have a fun time.

 

For reference, I think we stay the fuck out of tom, mal, and snow, kill slippery and owner with fire, and see what happens if they die and the game is still going? If the team isn't vira/owner/slippery the remaining scum is probably jan/newcomb, but I'm still trying to decide for sure about miner.

 

Well it looks like you're hardclearing him for it, so it's clear that his strategy is working..

 

So you want to kill the 2 people that you don't know, which are basically the 2 easiest misslynches for you.

If we are both alive tomorrow i expect in depth reasoning for every read.
Because that reads like cooked up bullshit.

What do you think about koalas by the way?

 

Look, I already mentioned that I didn't want to lynch you today. As in, you weren't my top scumread. I was going for Jan for the majority of the day, but clearly we aren't killing him so I switched to you because you were the counterwagon and I didn't like the nurse.

If we're both town then I'm looking at jan/tom/owner as most likely to be scum in my book.

I might also go back and reread everything of koalas.

If it's not in jan/tom/owner, then I'll reverse my decision on Newcomb, but I'm pretty sure if it's not in those three then the game's over anyways.

 

Yes, but that is beside the point.

First things first .. I am your top lynch all game and now you have slippery bellow me in your list? yes?
Even when you stopped voting me your argument wasn't slippery is more scummy, it was people don't want to lynch jan right now.

No way.
Grade A Bullshit.


And you saying that me clearing him for it makes his play work also means I am town .. because if you believe we were partners then all this talking by me would be helping out a buddy and not me being tricked by him.


Make up your mind. This is not town. this is opportunistic as shit.

 

The fuck? The reason Slippery is red on my reads list is because I'm voting for him. Like... I thought for read walls whoever you're voting for should be at the bottom.

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And yes, I switched because people weren't going to lynch you today. Why the fuck would I waste a vote on your head if nothing was going to come out of it anyways? Might as well go for a less scummy (but still somewhat scummy) read who did something I disagree with?

 

explain why you ahve a townrread on the other people.

Every single person.
You think tom and me are scummy for pushing on you, which is boring.

Do you think tom is likely to be with owner? I don't.

If so state why. Look at their interactions.
Look at slippery and me .. likely buddies or not? there are like 1000 posts between us talking to each other.
Read it, make a case.

If you are town and want to actually play the game then actually play the game.

 

Does you clearing him = you being fooled by him, or you being town?

No.

 

Hey miner. If you still don't want to lynch slippery, why is he in red on your rainbow wall?
The self pres vote is fine, but it doesn't change your read.

 

It is called readswall because it is meant to represent your reads at the time.

You can vote for someone but me because you don't want a no lynch and i won't die.
I can still be at the bottom, it would just be awkward if slippery was your 2nd highest town or something like that.

Where would you put slippery on your readslist if you were not voting on him?

 

Oh. Lol. GJ jan

 

I am playing the game. I told you what I know of interactions. Again, I've not played very much mafia. I'm giving you the best I can. If that's not good enough then I apologize, but there's nothing I can do about it.

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Slippery would be yellow if I wasn't voting for him.

 

you said "HIS STRATEGY IS WORKING"

that means you are saying his play was to pocket me with this play.

You do not pocket your mafia partners.

That is not how the game or anything works.


If you believe that it was his strategy to con me, then I have to be town.
It is either that or I am his buddy defending him, but you cannot have both.

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Oh shit, I forgot Kalas. He's definitely in that Newcomb/Jan tier of figure out if the game doesn't end when you kill the obv!scum. I just don't have overly strong feelings on him. I has a light toenread him for some things in my read notes iirc, but he's not been pertinent to what has been happening ITT when I'm around, so I haven't felt like I needed to solidify that yet.

As for the other bits, this is why I haven't interacted with you yet Jan. Our playstyles are so different that everything you post comes out needlessly abrasive and defensive/doubtcasty to me. I don't think you're a bad player (you're likely better than me, and certainly more experienced), so it has to be a playstyle issue where we just interpret things and think in very different ways, but yeah.

I'll give the reasoning for my scum reads when I get a chance, but I do have reasons, some of which I've indicated.

Do you have any reads for posterity just you get nk'd?

 

When I say strategy, I mean his strategy of convincing town in general that he's town. You clearing him also helps, whether or not you're his buddy.