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Witch Hunt #8

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Apr 28, 2017.

  1. Cobalt

    Cobalt Third Year

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    Hmmm... true.

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    And I mean ok Kai would never win in endgame but I'd rather have the LC out sooner rather than later just in case?
     
  2. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    So they shot known Judge Jan N1?
     
  3. Cobalt

    Cobalt Third Year

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    Hypothetical funtime.

    Two of Vaimes / Newcomb / Vira / Fonti / Kai are scum. Pick the most likely pair and sell me on why.

    Vaimes fontisian Vira Newcomb KaiDASH I'd like you all to participate in this little activity, just remove yourself from the running.
     
  4. Vaimes

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    Rubicon claimed Apprentice to Jarizok after he claimed GD.

    So Rubicon could have been Apprentice to Jan.
     
  5. Cobalt

    Cobalt Third Year

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    Yeah um, that doesn't really make much sense.

    I think Rubicon was definitely exactly the GD apprentice and thats why at one point he pushed Jarizok over himself.

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    But why do witches shoot definitely not the priest Jan if that's the case?
     
  6. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Shrug.

    They shot Waco N1 when he was the town GD.
     
  7. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    I did that for a very specific reason having to do with lying about GD checks and it didn't work. So, again...
     
  8. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH Auror DLP Supporter

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    n1 on judge jan strongly suggests scum team had extra lives.

    I mean, if it wasn't just random chance.
     
  9. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    Why is this game so goddamn weird
     
  10. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH Auror DLP Supporter

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    I think I want to lynch Vira then Jarizok.

    If scum roles were fanatic, GD, surv, spiritualist, nurse and apprentice, I can see a team getting greedy and keeping fanatic over spiritualist, even though spiritualist is better for most players most of the time (especially in concert with gd).

    lynch vira
     
  11. Vira

    Vira Third Year ~ Prestige ~

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    Yes, let's assume scum chose Apprentice Judge, murdered Jan, then did nothing with it. Great idea.
     
  12. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH Auror DLP Supporter

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    I think that's the most likely thing if Jarizok is scum.

    If he's town there's relatively few viable worlds where the last two witches aren't one of delphine/miner or regfan/cobalt.

    You should post where you think we're at.
     
  13. Vira

    Vira Third Year ~ Prestige ~

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    Kai / Font. If Kai were scum and somehow didn’t kick Fluff down a staircase, I would expect him to put his scummate in his kill list from D3 to distance. Of the names you listed only Vaimes and Font were on there, and Vaimes’ activity and tone doesn’t match his scum game. Therefore, Kai / Font.

    I believe Jari is scum. He posted a lot on D1 only for his activity to free fall with no excuse. His scumteam is getting massacred and that would sap anyone’s motivation for playing.

    Explain to me why Rubicon was lying about his role. What makes you think that?
     
  14. Vaimes

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    Newcomb/Vira
    Newcomb/font
    Newcomb/Kai
    Vira/font
    Vira/Kai
    font/Kai

    It's mechanically impossible for Newcomb/Kai to win. I don't think font is scum with the LC or DOB, both of whom will end up dying at some point, and likely after font is already dead. There's no way for her/them to win there.

    Newcomb/Vira
    Vira/font
    Vira/Kai

    Which uh. Leaves Vira on all viable scumteams if we take Delphine/Miner and Cobalt/Reg off the table, which would make sense. She's super townread, has two lives, and the odds of her being scum jump up if Jan was the Judge and Rubicon was his Apprentice. Scum!Survivalist with (almost) all her buddies dead gives the coven a pretty good chance to bounce back.

    Like. I think Vira is/has been town behaviorally, both independently and with how she handled owner, but. At the end of the day, some people are better at faking that sort of thing than others, and it's very possible we're vastly underestimating her here.

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    Like, regardless of Kai's alignment, mechanically we have three dead witches, yes? I'm not being super slow about that?

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    Despite how this game has gone, I don't get the feeling the coven has given up. Which must mean that they have an ace in the hole.

    A super townread witch Survivalist with both lives intact and on the verge of being able to shoot twice per Night.

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    Kai/font world doesn't really work.

    Kai will be forced to LC at some point, otherwise he'll just get lynched (in which case, he'll just LC anyways). font isn't townread enough to escape PoE.

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    Also font encouraged people to lynch him, and then Kai held the thread hostage and threatened to kill font.

    You could argue distancing, but eh?
     
  15. Vira

    Vira Third Year ~ Prestige ~

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    Now I wish I were scum. :/
     
  16. Vaimes

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    I remember you getting pretty far in that mini where you were the mafia Doctor. :p

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    Anyway, that's assuming that Waco/Jarizok doesn't end the game.

    Don't really want to lose to a witch with extra lives, but that's something everyone will have to discuss.
     
  17. KaiDASH

    KaiDASH Auror DLP Supporter

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    just.

    If Jarizok and Rubicon are w/w, Rubicon claiming GD's apprentice instead of Judge is silly.

    Judge is both believable and impossible for us to determine otherwise.

    On the other hand, GD's Apprentice is a pointless lie that looks like a pointless lie.

    But Rubicon can't not scum, unless you're a believer in what is maybe the most tinfoil world of owner kalas atum jarizok fonti.
     
  18. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Unvote, vote Vira[/color

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    Oh, whatever.

    Unvote, vote Vira

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    !!!

    Unvote, vote Vira
     
  19. Vira

    Vira Third Year ~ Prestige ~

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    I No Lynched on N4/N5 to fake-out the non-existent Vigilante because apparently I was a Mafia Doctor for no reason. I've made myself forget that game and you should too.

    Rephrase this, I don’t know what you’re referring to here. Are you saying Rubicon should have claimed he was the Judge?
     
  20. fontisian

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    Let's hear from Jarizok first, yo.
     
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