There's definitely a good one where she tries to become MoD is there not? But it's only like, two chapters.

 

Delving too deep in the pursuit of knowledge and losing your moral compass somewhere along the way is not just a Rowling thing.

Besides that, I generally agree; Hermione is in the classic archetype of someone who thinks they know what's best for everyone because they're smarter than most people.

 

Hermione is with Harry, her destinied and soulbonded Mate. But the jealous sidekick Ron betrayed and killed Harry. Now Revenge is not enough for a disillusioned Hermione, she must dive deep into the Dark Arts for her quest to revive the love of her life.

There we go. Actually, thinking on her feet is not one of Hermiones many talents, so she would be more of Mad Scientist/Manipulator type villain then a Dark Lady that is in the thick of things.

 

Doesn't she go bad in Song of the Trees? I remember a fight between her and Harry at any rate.

 

Nah she is a ministry stooge + I think the ministry kidnaps Ron and forces her.

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This is pretty much done in Only Enemies.

 

I think the general consensus has been reached that Harry never became as skilled or powerful, which I agree with. However we also have to consider that where the others who are referenced, Dumbledore, Grindlewald, Marauders, Snape, Voldermort, all attended Hogwarts without having to worry about the dark wizard out to kill them, or the random creature petrifying/killing things, their insane godfather hunting for them, etc. They actually received an opportunity to focus solely on their schooling, with the biggest concerns being the childhood bully, and an unfortunate case of attempted murder. Perhaps I'm not remembering it correctly, but wasn't Riddle allowed to stay at Hogwarts over the summer, at least once the war started, or am I mixing canon and fanon? If that did happen, he would've had access to Hogwarts' famed library with virtually no restriction considering the lack of censorship.

Also, if nothing else, Harry is shown to be a prodigy at DADA, not because he knows x spell, but because at the age of fifteen, he's able to teach and do it well. It's not as if he's simply revising old spells, he actually teaches them new things, I feel as though that indicates an actual mastery of the subject.

Again, I agree that he would most likely never reach the skill level that Voldemort and Dumbledore boast, however, we're also dealing with a best the view of a teenager who spent the vast majority of his time fighting for his life, without anyone actually present to encourage his learning other than Hermione. The epilogue at best provides us with cloudy context clues as to his skill level and abilities. Essentially, while it's not likely, it's not entirely as impossible as quite a few people have said.

 

Voldemort needed 32 years of magical education to challenge Dumbledore's power.

As unmotivated our protagonist is, I can see a 60-70 aged Harry Potter duel like Tom Riddle and Albus Dumbledore. After all, he has nothing else to do other than learning magic as an auror and his free time when his children leave for Hogwarts.

As much a darling his wife Ginevra maybe, I can't see him all lovey dowey with her 24/7. So, yeah. A 70 year Harry might have reached the level of Dumbledore and Voldemort.

 

Riddle and Dumbledore two Mozarts and DaVinci's of magic who studied relentlessly for decades without any distractions like family. An average musician or painter will never reach their level even if he will study for decades. Harry will hit a plateau in skill and will be unable to progress any further.

 

....Honestly? I see Harry as someone who had the potential to be great. But, never reached that potential for multiple different reasons.

He should have, could have and would have, but didn't because of; The Dursleys, Hermione, Dumbledore, Voldemort and the many other dangers that he had to deal with over his tenure at Hogwarts.

Post-time skip Harry. I see him as basically, thanks to a natural aptitude for battle that may have actually come from the horcrux in him, and probably alot of raw power - the best of the best. He stands above everyone else, and is basically the greatest of that time.

But, 'that time' isn't a time with either Dumbledore or Voldemort. Harry is now the best of the best, but they were and will always be 'those who curb stomped the best of the best'.

If Harry managed to reach his full potential, he probably would be on that level. But he didn't so, in a straight up fight they rape him 6 ways from Sunday.

 

Everyone has the potential to be great, if you change every event of their life from birth.

 

lol.


But, Harry was already a great hero in many ways when he left Hogwarts, and as someone who really didn't start applying himself until around 17, I can see Harry coming out of Auror training, which we know they get, as a very competent wizard, especially with no Voldemort to worry about.

 

Just wanted to note the fact that Harry later became the Head Auror doesn't actually mean he actually became talented. I am sure that anyone who has any notion of work place politics knows that seniority and talent are rarely associated. In addition, he defeated Voldemort and saved their nation. Harry would have to actively shit on his career not to eventually get that position.

One of the morals behind JK's story is that lust for power is less effective than a desire to live and enjoy life. Dumbledore, Voldemort and even to a lesser extent and Hermione were examples of people who strove and pushed themselves. In the end they were "lesser" for it. Nevile and Harry were examples of people who just want to enjoy their lives and handle any situation thrown at them to protect that life and are "better" for it.

This is utter bullshit btw.

No JK's Harry would never end up being an exceptional wizard. That drive isn't there, the fact that he passed up the elder wand shows that.

 

Auror! Harry. He and Ministry don't like each other, so WHY Harry will work for them? I don't see why Harry would work an actual job at all. He's a celebrity and assumedly rather rich, especially after inheriting Sirius's gold. Even if not, he could just make appearances and endorse stuff to make piles of gold. I'd believe he would be a Quidditch star more then anything.

 

Harry is not the type of guy to course through life with inherited wealth and celebrity status. And Kingsley is the Minister for Magic after all...

 

No. Harry became a child rearing bum, like his friend, Ron.

 

Not being an exceptional wizard was the point. Being an exceptional person is more important than that. You'll note that all the truly exceptional wizards were varying flavors of insane, and we have a three-for-three track record of the legendary talents trying to take over the world and enslave most of humanity, though Dumbledore did back out before committing himself fully.

 

There is no good or evil. There is only power and those who are too weak to seek it. :\

 

I don't think Harry can ever become as talented as Dumbledore or even a pre-Voldemort Riddle. Harry just doesn't love magic the same way that Dumbledore or Riddle love magic. He loves the magical world, he loves quiddicth, he loves to do the right thing, but he at his core could care less about magic. In fact what comes easiest to him is his "doing the right thing complex", neither D(took him a century to learn it) nor R(never did learn it) have that.

Some have stated that spending 80 or so years would allow Harry to reach the level of D/R. But the way I see it, these guys were making/doing/pursuing amazing things from the get go. I don't think he can do things that explore entirely new branches of magic or develop new theories. That kind of love of creativity for creativities sake doesn't exist in him.

Now about him being the head of aurors, it's a mistake to think that the head would need to be some badass wizard who can go toe to toe with D/R. The head of Aurors R.Scrimegeour(pardon the spelling) and the head of DMLE A.Bones were both considered competent in their jobs but were they not killed?

 

The head of the FBI is not contractually required to be able to solo their entire department in a mixed martial arts competition.

I don't see why anyone would think this would apply to the Aurors, either.

The part that matters is being a good leader. Harry's already proven to have natural talent in that area. Being able to throw down with werewolves in a bareknuckle boxing match or conquer an Iron Man dueling circuit challenge seems pretty irrelevant.