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Mini Mafia #6

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Citrus, Dec 12, 2015.

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  1. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Actually, Newcomb, I changed my mind.

    How are these said differently? They're both townreads sans explanations.

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    Like I'm okay with the first part, but I don't get where you're coming from with the second part.
     
  2. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    2nd part = if I see someone posting a naked townread and I don't even have an inkling as to why, the real question isn't why they have that read - although that matters, but like, you know there's an explanation. It's not like you're going to catch someone going "I think X is town." "Why." "OH FUCK I HAVE NO IDEA."

    So it's not "why that read" - it's "why post it naked at all, when you know you're going to get called on it?"

    So like, in dLGN's case - did he want reactions? Is it kind of a DM mindset playstyle thing? Or is it an actual read, and if so, does that actual read kind of mesh with an "a-hah, this guy's town!" Moment of Brilliance (tm)?
     
  3. Jan

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    You do realize that half of his gifs actually transport information, right?

    The other half are open lolcatting, which is fun.
     
  4. The Storm

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    I don't look into GIFs for info unless they are post restricted to do such. I read them all but I don't really consider it like that.

    I mean some of them are funny and amusing but trying to read into them is not something I want to spend time doing.
     
  5. Prophylaxis

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    I don't understand your response.
    Unvote ; Vote: Jan

    Why do you believe that an SK is in this game?

    Moreover, you have "slight scum leans" on Delphine and you think Newcomb is the SK. Why aren't you voting either one of them?

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    Snowvon: It's the type of paranoid reaction that would pop into a townie's mind, but would require thought for scum to fake. Given that (I believe) this is Storm's first game, I'm inclined to believe the former.
     
  6. Vaimes

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    I don't think I follow.

    You said you were questioning the way that dLGN worded his post, and Proph essentially used the same wording, but you didn't poke him about it because you understood the town!Storm read. But. We're talking about the wording, not the reads. So??

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    What reaction? Asking for a link to the game you mentioned?
     
  7. Prophylaxis

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    The "just promise to not lie to me" reaction.
     
  8. Rubicon

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    Hi Loch. Let me know if you still feel that way in like ten pages.

    I've been excellent. I've been putting all the time I usually spend playing mafia working instead. Which has its pros and cons.

    And I also skimmed one of your scum games on MS recently. It was unsettling.
    The Storm, is this your first game?
     
  9. Newcomb

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    I took a pretty good beating in that game with regard to scumread accuracy. I self-diagnosed a confirmation bias problem where I'd get a bad vibe, see a few things, and kind of spiral off that even though I was aware of the possibility of a bad tunnel.

    Thus, not doing that this game. This game I focus on townreads, split the game into town and not town, and don't force scumreads. I noticed an "I want to scumread you" vibe from your first few posts. I am consciously not engaging with it, internally, and keeping you at null. Back to basics. Make a towncircle, lynch outside it.
     
  10. KaiDASH

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    I enjoyed this far more than I expected to.
     
  11. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    While entirely reasonable, this doesn't really explain why you're not voting him.
     
  12. The Storm

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    I have one other game that is ongoing but that's it. So I would say yes? I watched a lot so I have an ok grasp on what I am doing.

    Fun fact: it took me a minute to figure it out.
     
  13. Newcomb

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    We're talking about wording and reads. Proph's wording implied something self-evident, and maybe Proph pointed it out that fast because he already knew, and if so, he needs to be left alone and monitored to see if he follows up with it on his own. It's like. If Proph is scum and he handed out a too-easy townread, then before everyone dogpiles on and goes "yep Storm is town," I want there to be a moment for Storm to say "why are you townreading me?" or for Proph to revise/expand the read without being prodded, or, idk, something. But now it's like, well, that moment has kind of passed us by.

    Whereas dLGN's wording also implied something self-evident but my reaction to that was just "wtf are you even talking about."

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    It's the third panel that really seals it, IMO. The expressions.

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    No votes without intent to kill.
     
  14. dLGN

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    snowvon's line of questioning is excellent, have him as solid town

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    I kind of did want a very specific reaction from it, too, but I weighed filling you in as more important than ignoring you and waiting to see if I got said reaction. Ah well.
     
  15. Jan

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    How about because he hardclaimed it. Why don't you just read the thread?

    You might have missed it, hidden between bad jokes, but i also read dLGN slightly scummy for his early townread on me out of nowhere. (My 2nd point in that post i think)
    Why do you think i should change my vote from one slight scum lean to another?
     
  16. Delphine

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    Jan- The read on me is bad for several reasons, though I don't think it's scummy of you necessarily.

    Snowvon- my QT is >5000 words rn. Are you keeping up?

    I'm not sure what to make of you saying you don't know anyone. I thought you had played with almost half the player list? http://imgur.com/JbHIAkA is my estimate of who-has-played-with-who about as simply as I can, though I'm sure I'm a little wrong. Dark green = at least a couple of games together, light green = less than that but some experience. Dark blue = lots of video mafia, light blue = a little. Purple = BFFs.

    How do you expect your activity level to be this game? What's the most interesting thing that's happened so far?

    You decided on this approach like >90% before you got your role PM then, yeah?

    I'm surprised you thought that that was a serious comment and it sorta bothers me; can you explain?

    Reaction from who?
     
  17. Vaimes

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    Newcomb

    How did that moment pass by?? It was on the same page.

    ._.

    I feel like I'm making a bigger deal out of this than it really is but. Hngh.

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    Delphine

    I am not. I have a good reason for slacking though!

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    Also your chart is beautiful.

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    Also I agree with you w/r/t Prophylaxis taking the SK comment seriously.
     
  18. Rubicon

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    Dear lord.
     
  19. Prophylaxis

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    You've fooled me in two games back to back. Why would I /not/ want to scumread you? :p

    This feels genuine to me, though.

    Someone should vote me so we can do fun wagon analysis stuff later in the game.

    I have no idea who those two characters are since I'm a fish out of water when it comes to Star Wars.

    I missed you reading dLGN as slightly scummy, though.
    I've noticed that being the first person to mention neutrals often leads to scum.

    It also surprises me that you spent all that time making the chart.
     
  20. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    I am interested in the Prophylaxis wagon getting a fifth vote.

    Especially if it's a scum vote.
     
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