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The Magicians

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by wolf550e, Jan 2, 2016.

  1. BDiddy

    BDiddy Second Year

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    First, I understand the complaints about book 1. It was the weakest of the three, but I thought it got stronger as it went along. Books two and three were similar, but IMO, more quality even if the story might have expanded a bit.

    As to the tv series, I think it's starting to catch its flow, but I have a filling Book 1 is going to be 2 seasons. While this is fine and there are enough activities, if they add some flavor, to fill out one it will be week. Season 2 would be super awesome but need to fill in lots of back story.

    If book 1 isn't well received, book 2 is not going to get a season.
     
  2. Gengar

    Gengar Polymagus Prestige DLP Supporter

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    If anything happens to Elliot, I'm gonna punch a baby.
     
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    It is like telling eagle to fear heights!

    I teach you to soar.

    Yes?

    Myakovsky <3
     
  4. unorfind

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    Myakovsky was the best character in series so far :D ,the show seems to be moving from college kids drama to more magical stuff which is in plus especially latest episodes stuff started getting serious.

    Overall the series is actually pretty decent wich is pleasant suprise usally fantasy tv series tend to be utter crap
     
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    Yeah, I'm very happy with them getting so serious so fast. Unlike the meandering pace of the books, the show is really getting to the meat. Episode 8 made me sit up and take notice. Very good. The show might actually get a season 2.
     
  6. KHAAAAAAAN!!

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    It was already renewed for season 2 actually. Early last month.
     
  7. Gengar

    Gengar Polymagus Prestige DLP Supporter

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    Elliot still carrying the show for me.

    Starting to get really irritated by Q's 'Fillery's supposed do be magical, no mean and scary, waah' shtick.
     
  8. unorfind

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    The show is still keeping decent and somewhat grim level, the opening of ep 11 really made go wtf :D,although ep9 still wins in that department.
    It was also nice to see more magic in action ("Majikku misairu." lol)
    and the ending
    Quentin ending up in threesome with Elliot and Margo
    so we can expect return of more romance drama which gets kinda mixed reaction of me.
     
  9. Gengar

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    It's a pretty solid reaction from me.

    Fuck that shit.
     
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    I'm enjoying the glitter. Haven't read the books, but armed with the understanding that these are about fundamentally entitled, unlikable tropes characters painfully growing up, I like. I like the pain and suffering, the mental issues, the utterly human fuckups in this magical crockpot. I like the modern tonality, the pop references that read like meta-humor, just generally how these characters interact with the setting while forgiving their various neuroticisms.

    Or rather, enjoying the consequences because of their neuroticisms.

    Characters. Eliot carries the day as the party king, and also as one of the most layered, individualistic gay characters I've ever seen. So not token/archetypical. Hale delivers impeccably and with a pretty good range. His combination wardrobe's also pretty awesome, extremely well-thought out, if not of my taste.

    Margo is best when she's sporty. Summer Bishil sounds completely monotone in earnest and in cadence, which is her only delivery as queen. It grates. So yea, I know fans enjoy her blatant strong!woman archetype, but I liked her much better in season 1 than season 2. Case in point: in an interview for Lesser Evil, Hale mentions Summer's musical close-up as intended of a powerful woman "belting it out." Except, when I hear it, her phonemes are all blended together. She might have had volume but there's no enunciation; no emphasis or personality or power.

    One redditor commented, way early into S1, that most of the actors would benefit from elocution lessons. He wasn't wrong. Julia suffers from a similar vocal issue, although I think Stella's been improving in her nuance, and of course there's a lot more personal journey and authentic sense of progress (by dint of what's been forced) on her end than Margo's. To my ears and eyes anyway.

    Jason is perfectly fine as ultra-nerd Quentin. I can forgive him his wussy pathetic fixations-in-the-moment.

    Alice, while I understand is nothing like the book character and spends most of S1 as the archetypically alienated glamour girl-with-glasses, grows. As with Julia, I can appreciate the changes wrought on her from her journey. And yea, I can't help but be intrinsically vested in her and Quentin's story because it's fun watching Q struggle with romance. Looking forward to more Alice-Julia action as S3 rolls along.

    Fogg's fun, Mayakovsky's best.

    Arcwise, the show's not the most consistent. S2 felt much more experimentally meandering than S1. I lost sense of pace with S2, and I understand book fans were displeased with some of the plot deviations - what with Eliot's alternating highs and lows instead of a consistently mature upward trajectory as king; Penny's various arcs about his hands, etc. Again, not having read the books, I can forgive and enjoy the series for its best moments. Most of all, I'm delighted by the textures and postmodern playfulness inherent to this TV world, shallow as it might be.

    I expect the books to be their own experience: not all unpleasantness is without profit.

    FYI, The Magicians is Syfy's #1 for female viewers, topping even The Expanse. It's not going away anytime soon.
     
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