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White Court Vampire vs Veela

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by X Kronos X8, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. X Kronos X8

    X Kronos X8 Fifth Year

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    So, who possesses the more potent aura? A White Court Vampire, or a Veela?
     
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  2. Tehan

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    Veela can affect a larger amount of people, White Court have a stronger effect.

    Did I use affect and effect right? It's a mystery!
     
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  3. vlad

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    All we really know for sure is that Fleur, being French, no doubt has a more potent odor. Almost the same thing.
     
  4. X Kronos X8

    X Kronos X8 Fifth Year

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    Is the White Court's really stronger?

    I mean a non concentrated aura from the veela in Goblet of Fire affected an entire arena of thousands of wizards, and not sure if this is 100%, but wasn't Harry "willing to do anything to get their attention", including jumping out of the box?

    Although, they were pure blooded veela, and there was a group of them.
     
  5. Tehan

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    And it broke when they stopped dancing and he felt stupid about it after. A single strong White Court vampire would have had a longer-lasting and less easily-broken æffect and could have made him go through with it without needing a posse of friends and a ritualistic dance and music.

    But I doubt even the strongest of White Court vampires could enthrall thousands of people at a time from a cold start.
     
  6. vlad

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    I swear to god we've had this coversation before.

    I agree with Tehan, even though the examples aren't very good.

    With the veela, there were a lot of them in one place (and a place with particularly high emotions should that factor into things), so it seems natural that more people would be affected. If a veela (and Fleur being a quarter-veela makes her a less than stellar candidate to test things with) were to engage on a one-to-one deliberate thrall whatever, who's to say how strong it could be?

    Likewise, we never get any white court vamps with the age of say the red court kingpins. And while they're focus does seem to be more on the one-to-one (and we've seen how all encompassing that thrall can be), it's clear they can also create a general aura such as the night club scene.
     
  7. Tehan

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    Okay, how about this: White Court vampires are (usually) subtle and blatantly sexual. Veela are neither, although in the latter case it could be because it was in a kid's book.

    And we only see pure Veela twice in the books - the mascot display (which sucks for trying to get a read on Veela power - the atmosphere, the large number of them, the probably-ritualistic dancing and music...) and later in the forest, where a bunch of idiots are trying to hit on a few of them. Likewise a shite example - hot chicks don't need magical powers to get a bunch of hormonal teenagers to say stupid things to try to impress them.

    Proper answer? Insufficient data.
     
  8. Aekiel

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    On a one-to-one situation, I'd say the White Court has the advantage. From what we've seen of Veela they have to be within the vicinity to have an effect; White Court vamps have much longer term effects, to the point where the White King could rip the life out of someone with just a kiss. As far as I'm aware, Veela cannot do that.

    As well as that, every time a White Court vamp feeds on a person it makes them more susceptible to feeding the next time, with a cumulative effect. Veela don't do that, so if a person becomes resistant to the Charm somehow they are then free from its influence for life.
     
  9. Spanks

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    White Court vampires do porn. They win :awesome

    Edit: On a more serious note I'm not really sure which is stronger. They're both strong, both can transform into different beings and seem to be born with a natural beauty. The only difference I can really see is that Veela seem to be a female only species.

    I guess I'll say that the White Court look to have an advantage since their aura is sort of like a narcotic to those who are around it for a long period of time.
     
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  10. Howdy

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    Is this really a discussion?

    A WC vampire can mindfuck you into a slave or kill you with sex, and I'm not sure it's ever implied that they can be resisted if they don't want to be.

    Veela have literally nothing on that. Nothing.
     
  11. Scrib

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    White Court vampires would eat Veelas (literally).

    Although their natural inate aura may be weaker it's slnothing to sneeze at, we saw Madeline pulling the attention of everyone in the club in TC towards her. And while it may not be as powerful as whatever the Veelas (in a group) throw around it's far more deadly because if you let yourself get drawn in you are far more vulnerable to White Court vampires. Having a Veela charm you can be temporary. You start getting fed on and you're in trouble.

    Also we really don't know whether the demonstrations of the Veela aura is inate really so we have no baseline. As Tehan said the effect they had on Harry broke when they stopped dancing. And it's implied that Fleur was deliberately trying to zap Cedric with it when Ron walked into it. WC vampires attraction is pretty much and inate factor that the camps can turn up as they please.


    EDIT: Although to be fair we've only really seen three WC vamps draw eyes even when it seemed they weren't trying. Thomas was almost always hungry so he could have been turning it up subconsiously. Lara was probably doing it to keep Harry on the back foot and Madeline... probably lives her life that way and just doesn't give a fuck.
    Also aren't Veelas unable to affect females? I remember Hermione not being impressed by The whole dance in GoF. A big disadvantange.
     
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  12. Fiat

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    Murphy resists the White King in Blood Rites.

    Doesn't change the fact that the veela aren't even in the same league as the White Court, though.
     
  13. Howdy

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    He doesn't do the full-on mindfuck though. He gives her a taste and then lets her go. Much like he must have done with Harry's mother.
     
  14. X Kronos X8

    X Kronos X8 Fifth Year

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    So, I guess that its decided. A White Court vampire has a stronger aura than a veela.

    However, where would something like the Ardeur from Anita Blake rate on the scale compared to a member of the White Court?
     
  15. Tehan

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    [​IMG]

    Sounds like a porno plot device to me.
     
  16. X Kronos X8

    X Kronos X8 Fifth Year

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    Meh, I read about it, and wondered how it compared to a White Court Vampire's aura, because of their various similarities.
     
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  17. Scrib

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    I don't know about the Anita Blake power. I've read a few pages of her book before I gave up and it's very difficult to tell because everyone is pretty much Anita's bitch and don't even think about resisting.

    As for WC vampires they can literally overcome the body of an woman (can the Stygian even be called that) who rips apart the minds of various demons and other baddies and melds them with her own. The impression I get is as long as you have a mortal body they can pretty much bypass your brain and make you get down to it.

    If Anita Blake doesn't have something like that she's fucked.
     
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