Discussion in 'Hall of Shame' started by NoxedSalvation, Aug 26, 2011.
Did you make that up there on the spot, or are you the Lord of all fanfiction?
No you shithead. It's common sense.
It's much more likely to be based on a fear of WB/FF.net reprisal than an actual belief that he's wrong. If enough people complain, someone will probably do something as a response and he doesn't want it to happen. His fanfiction has brought him more mainstream attention than all his Friendly AI proselytizing combined, and nearly as much money in days as he made in an entire summer. He has to protect it at all costs.
Of course, most of us who complained probably linked screencaps anyway, so it's a moot point.
Fixed that for you.
I wouldn't say his the lord but if you even take a casual glance at his current story I would at the very least make him the Duke of fanfiction.
Is it now? I am of the belief that anyone producing a creative work ought to be able to make money from it. Anyone who thinks otherwise has boxed themself into a moral corner where they think all fanfiction will fall apart if even a cent is made for any organisation for any purpose in any way possible.
Furthermore WB has already set a precedent for being rather aggressive in defending their intellectual properties, across a wide spectrum of medium. Even if they did eventually back off, in regards to HP fan sites.
This is actually what convinced me it was him. Why on earth would he log in if he wasn't going to post? He has a seperate machine on in the background with the LessWrong account logged in, 'viewing' the thread. It will even be pretty much exactly as pathetic as it sounds.
He's had to resort to referring to himself in the third person because he's actually transcended his own ego. True story.
Actually, he hasn't deleted it. It shouldn't matter all that much until(if) FFN takes action.
And Santi, while I may enjoy reading your fic, I disagree with your sweeping statements there. Anything fan generated = no monetary gain whatsoever is absurd. The fact that DLP itself is funded by donations should make that clear.
Unless, you know, someone else owns the damn thing.
...You genuinely believe that one should be capable of profiting from derivative fiction? Seriously? Are you on crack?
If JKR had written MoR I would have bought it. She did not.
Neither did WB.
It is a derivative work which means that only certain components of it are owned by someone else.
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No. Derivative works can have amazing amounts of creativity poured into them. Many of the posters in this thread have written well-reviewed fics, and they ought to be able to earn money for their work. It is sad that they are held back by copyright law.
Which means it's legal to seek a licensing agreement from the IP holders. Until then, you can't try making money off of it. We're not talking morality here so much as what's legal and not.
Er, what are you talking about? It's still up there for me.
And dhulli, DLP receiving donations is completely different. Donations in this case aren't paying for a Harry Potter FanFic - they're paying to keep the site running. No copyright involved at all.
That is the current situation, yes.
Donations to SIAI keep their site running and keep their events and research programs running. Yudkowsky is not employed to write fanfiction.
Dura lex sed lex.
The laws in place represent the only system that has legal relevance in the USA.
Thank you for your opinion.
Do you honestly believe that the laws in place right now represent the only system that would work?
Asking for donations to SIAI is not the issue. Using fanfiction as incentive to donate is.
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